My LC pads are ripping around the velcro.
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What size backing plate are you using? Is it flexible or a standard backing plate? Is the ring right where the backing plate ends?
Ive read in some posts if you go around alot of curves, the LC pads get cut from unequal pressure.
How much presure are you applying when using the pads?
By the way, How long have you been using the meguiars pads?
Ive read in some posts if you go around alot of curves, the LC pads get cut from unequal pressure.
How much presure are you applying when using the pads?
By the way, How long have you been using the meguiars pads?
Bill D
Hooked For Life
Yeah, happening to my orange pad, but I haven't been using the 5" plate. The jiggling action may indeed simply be pulling them apart 
Hi '04
Darned if I am not having the same problem. I returned two white pads to the vendor, he provided replacements, quickly and at no cost to me, but yesterday when I was doing an Exploder, the same thing started happening with my orange LC pad. It only seems to happen at a speed of 6 on my PC, but it is driving me nuts.
I was working on one of the rear doors that was 'well scratched'. I had been on it about 5 minutes when I could see the pad starting to rip. I wasn't using excessive pressure, nor was I moving quickly. (I was using SSR3, if this makes any difference).
If anyone from Lake Country is reading, I sure would like some guidance; I don't think that using it at a speed of 6 should be shredding these things - that's the speed you need sometimes for stubborn scratches.
Like you, this was only the second vehicle that I had used the pad on.
I hate to say it, but this is getting too expensive and time wasting (a week for a replacement pad) for me to continue with LC.
Glad to hear I'm not the only one having problems with this pad.
Darned if I am not having the same problem. I returned two white pads to the vendor, he provided replacements, quickly and at no cost to me, but yesterday when I was doing an Exploder, the same thing started happening with my orange LC pad. It only seems to happen at a speed of 6 on my PC, but it is driving me nuts.
I was working on one of the rear doors that was 'well scratched'. I had been on it about 5 minutes when I could see the pad starting to rip. I wasn't using excessive pressure, nor was I moving quickly. (I was using SSR3, if this makes any difference).
If anyone from Lake Country is reading, I sure would like some guidance; I don't think that using it at a speed of 6 should be shredding these things - that's the speed you need sometimes for stubborn scratches.
Like you, this was only the second vehicle that I had used the pad on.
I hate to say it, but this is getting too expensive and time wasting (a week for a replacement pad) for me to continue with LC.
Glad to hear I'm not the only one having problems with this pad.
PakShak said:LC manufactures pads for Meguiars via private label and also others.
With Aloha,
Ranney
Thanks Ranney
Rats.
I don't like the sounds of this. Take out Megs and LC and the market is getting kind of thin. So far the new Edge is a bit pricey, but if they will get me through more than two cars, it might be money well spent.
This is really depressing.
Bill D
Hooked For Life
PakShak said:LC manufactures pads for Meguiars via private label and also others.
With Aloha,
Ranney
Really?? Are the flat Meguiars pads just dyed different colors ( i.e. a maroon Megs cutting pad is really just a dyed yellow flat LC pad)and are really just flat LC pads?
Are you sure about that Ranney? Ive been debating for a week which pads to purchase and I finally decided on the LC pads from CMA because they are the most resonable but now Im having my doubts. Im only detailing my car and my families, but I dont want to have to reorder pads every two months.
I have enough headaches with little mechanical problems with my car lately. I dont want to have to deal with the aggrevation of returning pads.
When I first started reading this forum, everyone seemed to love the LC pads, but lately Im hearing lots of complaints about them and have been hearing better things about the meguiars pads.
Has anyone tried the new sonus pads yet?
I have enough headaches with little mechanical problems with my car lately. I dont want to have to deal with the aggrevation of returning pads.
When I first started reading this forum, everyone seemed to love the LC pads, but lately Im hearing lots of complaints about them and have been hearing better things about the meguiars pads.
Has anyone tried the new sonus pads yet?
ACURA95 said:
Right nowI'd kill to get two months out of a pad. I've been scratching my brain to see if I could figure out if it is something I'm doing wrong. Only thing that seems to be a common factor for me is the speed (6 on my PC). If this is the case, I'm switching pads - what good is a pad that you can't speed up??
Darn, I hope that LC can do something about this.
I remember hearing that the recommended max RPM on the pads was exceeded by the higher settings on the PC. I rarely go into the 6 setting because of reading this. I've only gone through three cars though. No tearing so far. Watch out with spinning them dry as well. I notice them almost streching beyond their size. Could just be the wobbling, but I'm almost sure they are stretching.
I guess the only good thing is that Cma will replace the pads, but Im sure they wont do that forever. I dont understand how the meguiars pads are holding up better yet thier made by the same company.
I think buying my first set of pads is alot more frustrating then buying my PC.:nixweiss
I think buying my first set of pads is alot more frustrating then buying my PC.:nixweiss
Mike_Phillips
Administrator
PakShak said:LC manufactures pads for Meguiars via private label and also others.
With Aloha,
Ranney
Hi Ranney,
Just curious... where did you get this information?
Mike
It could also be the LC change their glue or something recently.
My Meguiar's pads have held up very nicely.
I'm surprised to hear that LC may potentially be making the Meguiar's pads. I could have sworn that Meguiar's made it themselves.
I've never used the LC Pads but I seem to recall hearing that the density of the pads was different between the 2 vendor's. (Sorry Black, didn't mean to step on your toes, it took me a while to hit send ... had someone in my office).
Even if LC manufactures Meguiar's, it highly possible that the Meguiar's version is to a different specification so the glue, velcro and foam used are not the same between CMA/Meguiar's etc...
Paco
My Meguiar's pads have held up very nicely.
I'm surprised to hear that LC may potentially be making the Meguiar's pads. I could have sworn that Meguiar's made it themselves.
I've never used the LC Pads but I seem to recall hearing that the density of the pads was different between the 2 vendor's. (Sorry Black, didn't mean to step on your toes, it took me a while to hit send ... had someone in my office).
Even if LC manufactures Meguiar's, it highly possible that the Meguiar's version is to a different specification so the glue, velcro and foam used are not the same between CMA/Meguiar's etc...
Paco
EBPcivicsi
GOT PREP?
I have been having this problem off and on with my meguiars pads, never used the lake country.
The new sonus pads seem to designed really well and LOOK as though they could help this problem.
Seems to me that the backing plate needs a "pocket" to sit in and a small barrier of extra velcro to gaurd it against coming into contact with the BP. From looking(also reading) at the sonus pads it seems that they are designed this way.
The new sonus pads seem to designed really well and LOOK as though they could help this problem.
Seems to me that the backing plate needs a "pocket" to sit in and a small barrier of extra velcro to gaurd it against coming into contact with the BP. From looking(also reading) at the sonus pads it seems that they are designed this way.
Mike_Phillips
Administrator
paco said:
Lake Country does not manufacture our foam pads.
Also,
Meguiar's does not recommend using our foam pads on the 6.0 setting. The oscillating action, heat and product penetration all working together will break down the bond between the Velcro and the foam over time, be it our foam pads or anyone's foam pads. It's just too much to expect out of the foam pad.
The 6.0 setting is just a little on the violent side for long term foam pad usage.
Mike
Velcro coming undone or ripping?
If it's the velcro, are you washing the pads? If so, how? That could play a significant factor in their longevity. It wasn't long ago the manufacturers recommended that you not wash the pads.
If it's ripping on a Porter Cable. Are you applying any pressure (i.e. the 10lbs that often discussed here)? If you are, then that could be the root cause. Remember, the dual action is a very dynamic movement so if you apply pressure, you're actually forcing the DA to not move as much, hence putting pressure on the binding of the velcro and pad.
Note: I don't believe there are pads specifically designed for a DA. I believe most of the QC and developments are carried out on a rotarty polisher.
That may play into pad premature failure when using a DA.
If it's ripping on a rotary and you haven't been washing the pad, then it's more significant issue.
Paco
If it's the velcro, are you washing the pads? If so, how? That could play a significant factor in their longevity. It wasn't long ago the manufacturers recommended that you not wash the pads.
If it's ripping on a Porter Cable. Are you applying any pressure (i.e. the 10lbs that often discussed here)? If you are, then that could be the root cause. Remember, the dual action is a very dynamic movement so if you apply pressure, you're actually forcing the DA to not move as much, hence putting pressure on the binding of the velcro and pad.
Note: I don't believe there are pads specifically designed for a DA. I believe most of the QC and developments are carried out on a rotarty polisher.
That may play into pad premature failure when using a DA.
If it's ripping on a rotary and you haven't been washing the pad, then it's more significant issue.
Paco