My first detailing build! Opinions? Jewelling? & Interior?

HKp30

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After much research, learning and debating I have come down to the following items for my first detail! I am actually very excited and enjoy doing the research and learning the world of auto detailing, I had no idea how in depth it was and all the various products that are available.



The detail will be on my 05' Obsidian Black STi, the paint looks to be in good condition with some minor swirls and a few light scratches, along with quite a bit of water spots that showed up after the first few washes. Before purchasing the car at a dealer the paint only looked so/so, it looked much better after we picked it up and signed the papers; this leads me to believe they hid most of the blemishes.



I am worried about the "thin" Subaru clear coat and soft paint. I don't want to take any chances. I was first going to pick up a PC but recently was convinced that the Griot is a better buy.



I have picked out the below products for the detail:



-Griot's Polisher



-Lake Country CCS Pads, Orange, White, Grey & Red



-Optimum No Rinse Wash



-Pinnacle Clay bar with Optimum no rise for lube



Auto Geek's Pinnacle/Wolfgang Kit w/ Sourveran, This looked like a great deal considering the Sourveran alone is $95.00



-Wolfgang Deep Gloss Sealant (Everyone say's Black Fire Wet Diamond is a bit better, but I liked the price of this package)



-Pinnacle Sourveran Wax (Seems to be the winner for dark colors and quality)



-Wolfgang's Paintwork Polish Enhancer (This sounds like a cleaning polish meant to use before the Deep Gloss Sealant?)



-Wolfgang QD (I would prefer Pinnacle QD but again, the package sounds like a good deal so I’ll give it a shot)



Questions:



This is where I’m stuck, the Polishes or compounds for minor correction while playing it safe on the clear coat, to me this sounds contradicting! I was thinking of Meg's 205 followed by Wolfgang’s paintwork Polish then the sealant topped with Sourveran.



Is there something less aggressive than 205 that will still correct minor blemishes? Is there something I should use after 205 or a similar product to enhance the depth and overall look of the paint? From what I gather this is called jewelling?



Is there a sealant, wax or anything that prevents the dust from building up on the car? 2 days after a wash I feel like i'm driving a ball of dust. Maybe I'm just not used to a black car yet :waxing:



I am also looking into suggestions for wheel sealants and or waxes to make cleaning the brake dust off easier and more convenient.



Lastly, I am still searching for a good interior cleaner for the dash and other vinyl trim that will leave a nice finish and protect it from the Arizona Sun and last a while.



Goal:



My goal is a sexy black STi with a dripping wet look and depth along with good protection, I don't mind waxing every 3-4 weeks. Are there steps I should add or remove from my planned detail?



Thank you in advance!
 
Well, if you think black gets dirty fast, wait till you try Souveran! That stuff is really best left for show cars and garage queens. I still haven't tried my Wolfgang but I'd really go with Blackfire as its just so good. If you really must have a wax to put the depth over the top, go with CG50/50, amazing looks but not the dust magnet that PS is. The 205 should be fine for minor correction and it will finish out amazingly well.
 
ok so my post got deleted ... great...



product wise I'm unfamiliar with the second half as I've never used them nor paid enough mind to research.



Though STI clear may be thin, often times you'll find that the protective products you use work best on properly prepped paint--that means that the swirls and RIDS and etchings as well as the rest of the contaminant list should be cleared and leveled off.



I worked on a friends STI (try searching: operation car spa) and I ended up using 105 on it...I think you should be fine.

Depending on the swirls (btw look into washing the car clean of all fillers oils and waxes that the hacks..I mean dealership prolly loaded your car up with) you may find you actaully need something STRONGER than 205...



Honestly, I don't see you compounding/polishing more than 1nce or twice i year so i think you should be ok with your clear.(just put more emphasis into maintaining your protective products



Products to look into:

303 Aerospace



JEWELING (I made a thread which was along the lines of : Jeweling with Flex) asaik is not really all that necessary...
 
HKp30- What size pads did you get? IF they're larger than 5.5" you might want to rethink them.



Correcting marring means taking off clear, no way around that. M205 isn't all that aggressive and I'd be very surprised if it was aggressive enough.



I'd just use the same stuff on your wheels that you use on the car's paint.



I too consider Souveran (which I love on my Jag) to be rather unsuited for a daily driver.



FK425 is supposed to have some anti-static abilities, but I've never really noticed anything like that from it and I'd think twice about using it over Souveran anyhow.



Not sure what to tell you for the interior as I virtually never tread mine (but then I'm not in AZ either).



If you're concerned about polishing away the clearcoat, I sure wouldn't do any additional polishing along the lines of burnishing. Yeah, it's very, very gentle, but it's still abrading away clearcoat and you'll never notice the diff after a wash or two anyhow. Don't get too "Autopian" about this stuff ;)
 
true story about the souveran....Bad idea putting that on any car that gets driven more than once a month....I'd go with something that won't soak you as much and will have a lot better protection...try p21s concours...looks good and holds up nicely



yakky said:
Well, if you think black gets dirty fast, wait till you try Souveran! That stuff is really best left for show cars and garage queens. I still haven't tried my Wolfgang but I'd really go with Blackfire as its just so good. If you really must have a wax to put the depth over the top, go with CG50/50, amazing looks but not the dust magnet that PS is. The 205 should be fine for minor correction and it will finish out amazingly well.
 
Try the Wolfgang Duo Polishes(Total Swirl Remover and Finishing glaze). These polishes are a great 1-2 punch for defects that don't require a compound.
 
Dmurdock101 said:
true story about the souveran....Bad idea putting that on any car that gets driven more than once a month...



Heh heh, I used to use Souveran on daily drivers, and yeah, it's quick and easy to refresh, but sheesh did rewaxing get old. It was my wife's fave on her silver Audis, but I'm not gonna rewax anything that often.
 
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