Most durable wax/polish

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bcwang

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Hi,



I'm just wondering what is the most durable wax or polish, one that will last the longest, and also provide protection for the paint from UV and the weather.



From what I've read, possible long lasting ones are:



-One Grand Blitz

-P21S

-Zaino Z2

-Collinite Marque D' Elegance

-Collinite Super Doublecoat

-Klasse



But which one is the absolute longest lasting and provides the best protection for paint?



Thanks!
 
Try a search for the wax test. What do you think is a reasonable time? I mean if one product last a couple of days longer does that make a difference?
 
Collinite Super Doublecoat :xyxthumbs



The stuff rocks.



I've done AIO plus Collinite Super Doublecoat on top.



Super protection
 
Hmm, I new to this board and I am displaying all posts on the exterior care forum. I didn't know there were more posts elsewhere related to this. I'll look around more.



Thanks!
 
I'm sorry, I just realized that I posted into an articles database instead of the forum. No wonder there were so few posts here. Maybe an administrator can move this post out of here to the detailing forum?
 
ejant said:




Durability has a lot to do with preperation and proper application.
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Definitely true.



Of the carnubas, Collinite seems to be the most durable and of the synthetics, Zainos.
 
bcwang- Welcome to Autopia. We have a few vehicles where durability is the primary objective. What Scottwax said, plus Klasse AIO+ SGx3-5.



The Klasse will last for many months, but you really do need to get a few layers on there for OUTSTANDING durability. I get well over 6 months, but that car is garaged.



Spilchy, Detailking, and others are certainly right about the Collinite. I put the Collinite 476S over top of Autoglym's Super Resin Polish (an all-in-one synthetic) on a vehicle that's outside 24/7 and driven in crappy weather. Last did it in early December (not a meticulous job by any means) and it's still looking/beading fine after a tough Ohio winter. I don't plan to redo it until I really have to, and I'd guess that'll be a while.
 
Hmm, after reading around, it seems that the more durable products all involve a lot of work. I don't have much time wax my car, so I'd like it to last long, but also not take a lot of time to apply. Let's change the question a bit.



What is the most durable, longest lasting, best protecting, 1 step cleaner/wax? Hopefully it also gives a good shine too.
 
einszett express polish for a one step that is durable. Einszett Glanz Wax for a quick and durable shine on top of it. Easy to apply and easy to buff off. And *shiny*:)
 
After doing more browsing, it seems that mothers reflections might give a very good shine and be more durable than average too. Has anyone tried it and can comment on durability and shine? How does the shine hold up after some weather and washes?



Do you know if the einszett express polish gives an even better shine?
 
I do have a copy of Guru Reports. Unfortunately, there are a couple of waxes that were not tested by them, including mothers reflections. Turtle wax carnauba was also not tested, among a few others that I've seen at the local auto store. None of the one-step waxes tested by guru reports was really durable, so I'm hoping there is something out there that is.
 
bcwang- Just a (final?) note on the Collinite. The difficulty of application/removal is GROSSLY exaggerated. Really. You just wipe it on and wipe it off almost immediately (don't let it dry too long or it WILL be sorta hard to buff off). Applying it to a surface that ha already been prepped with an all in one product is a piece of cake. The K A-I-O or Autoglym/Collinite mix is VERY VERY easy. You can re-top the Collinite after a few months ALMOST as fast as you can walk around the vehicle, too.



And yes, the Autoglym SRP is a pretty durable one-step product by itself, probably a bit more so than the AIO (hard to tell).



Or go with the Einszett, people like it a lot.



My goals with our '84 Volvo wagon are similar to yours. You're gonna be a LOT happier using a two-step process than you will be with a cleaner-wax. One afternoon 3-4 times a year shouldn't be all that bad. If you DO decide to go with something like a cleaner wax, keep this thread in mind for future reference. I'm THAT certain. How's that for a hard-sell?!



EDIT: OOPS, looks like you already bought the Mother's!:o
 
nope, haven't bought anything yet, still researching.



Edit: submitted too early

So by two step being much more beneficial, which two steps do you mean? Cleaner, then a cleaner/wax? (hmm, that doesn't make sense after writing it out)

Or Glaze, then a wax? Or Cleaner, then a wax?
 
That could also effect your decision as some of the products may be difficult to find.



Also, how much effort are you willing to put into waxing your car?



i.e.

How much preparation time (couple of hours, days, weeks etc.)?



How often would you wax (every 2 weeks, month, 3months, 6months etc.)?



How much are you willing to spend ($10, $30, $50, $100)?



There really isn't a holy grail. It really depends on what you are hoping to achieve.



Basically,

S100 is a great wax.

Zaino is a great sealant.

Mother's is fine.

Meguiar's No. 26 is very very good. No. 20 sealant is good as well.

Blitz not bad but stains trim so you'll need to get the peanut butter out.



Paco
 
Depends on which products you are talking about.



Mothers and Meguiars both have a 1-2-3 system but I'd rate it only as average. If that is all you can afford, then it's a worth a try. If you willing to spend a $10-20 more, than you can start getting into some higher end quality products.



Paco
 
Prep time in days and weeks? I thought this all had to be done in one shot, otherwise you would contaminate before the final protective wax coat. Realistically, I have a 4 hour window to work, including washing the car. Last time I tried, I just finished taking off the wax using a 1 step product before the sun started hitting my car. This is why I feel none of the multi-step products will work for me. I also don't have a garage, and it's dusty as heck here, plus it gets cold at night, so my car will be covered in a layer of dust first, then the next morning the dust will be stuck on from the condensation, so I'd have to wash my car again if I wanted to apply any product on it.



I'd like to wax as little as I can ( meaning the wax will protect as long as it can ) but will probably actually do it often enough so the wax protection is never gone.



I'm willing to spend anything, money is not the issue as I think even the most expensive wax system is still cheap, but I'd say anything under $200 probably covers 99% of the kits out there. So $200 or less is good.



Edit:

If I knew I had the resources to do it (personal garage) I would just buy the zaino stuff. But after hearing about the application process, I think it would be impossible for me to apply it in my short window of opportunity.
 
Days or weeks. If you are preping slowly and trying to get rid of all the scratches and swirls before applying a sealant. Sometimes, a weekend is just not enough with all the other things going on i.e. groceries etc.



If you're not interested in waxing very often. Then you'll definitely better off going with a sealant. Klasse is a good choice if you worried about Zaino's application time.



However, Zaino doesn't really take much to apply.



Z1 - Then apply a coat of either Z2 or Z5. Then whenever you wash, apply another coat. Simple as that. After about 7-10 layers. Apply another Z1 coat.



ZFX allows you to apply 3 coats in one day. There really isn't much of a drying time so as long as it isn't vastly humid and it should setup in plenty of time.



If you go with a sealant, don't bother topping it then with a wax as it will make it difficult for you layer a sealant without having to remove the wax and adding time to your detailing.



Paco
 
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