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CharlesW

The Rainmaker
After searching and after checking the Duragloss site, I still didn't find the answers to a few questions.
Obviously, I can call tham, but I never seem to do things the easy way. :)

I applied DG #601 PBA, Polish Bonding Agent and left it on.
I followed it up with #105 TPP, Total Performance Polish which I removed after it hazed.
24 hours later, I repeated the TPP application.
A day or two later, I followed up with #951 Aqua Wax.
Everything went as planned and the vehicle looks good.
Today, I did another application of the AW. Vehicle looks good.

Now the questions.
How many times should/can I apply the AW before I should do the TPP again?
When I do apply the TPP again, can I just apply it or is it necessary to use the PBA again since I will have several applications of AW over the original TPP?
If I do use both the PBA and TPP, have I in effect started over and need to apply TPP again in a day or so to have the two so called layers recommended?

Maybe I just should have asked if I can put #105 TPP over #951 Aqua Wax with out having any durability issues.

Charles
 
You can use AW over or under anything. When you feel the need to put on more TPP , just do it . You will not need 601 again.The only time you will need 601 again is if you put on a carnuba, or after 6 months or so.
 
Charles...you can put the 105 over the AW no problem.....there will be no bonding issues....the AW bonds to the polish and vice versa...

In one of my posts..either here or another forum..I explained how a friend of mine did did 105 and Aw like zaino...as he was a zaino user before..he applied PBA and 105..next day did AW...day later did 105..and a day later AW...and a few days later the same process 105 and AW...he was just seeing results on his truck..well it had no issues..and looked great...his truck looked better than mine..lol...much deeper..both colors are close to the same...

He even called and asked if any problems could occur from this...and he was told the polymers in both products are very close and no problems will come from this....but was told 3 layers of 105 is max...or it will start to take away from the clarity ...and using AW monthly after that will be fine..chemist told him he should go a year or more with no problem as it was now...

so you should have no problems on durability or bonding

Al
 
One thing that made me wonder about the 105 over the AW was the reference to AW as a wax.
Since using a carnauba wax over a sealant does seem to require removal of the carnauba "wax" prior to applying more sealant, I was concerned that the same thing migh be true with the AW.
Since my vehicles will be getting the DIY spray off followed by Poorboy's S&W during the winter, any product I use will get some hard use.
My intent is to use the AW every three to five weeks and maybe apply more 105 some nice day in December or January.
That way, the base 105 will only be abused for about three months before being refreshed. Who knows, maybe the AW will do good enough job that I won't need to reapply 105 until spring.

Charles
 
Charles, I live just up the road from you in Boone, and your plan is exactly what I'm doing. I've got about 5 coats of 105 on now, spaced about 1-2 weeks apart (overkill I know) and I am keeping it up with AW. I decided to play around with some Collinite on a few of the surfaces, but I am expecting the DG stuff to do the job.
As you are planning, the coin-op is going to be used just for the clean water rinse down this winter to get the worst off, then I'll be using ONR to keep the truck clean. I tried this once already after a rain and a hunting trip when the truck had a nasty layer of crud, and the clean water rinse made almost everything just fall off...I think the DG did it's job very well.
Are they ever going to slow down the construction in Ankeny??
 
Krodad said:
Charles, I live just up the road from you in Boone, and your plan is exactly what I'm doing. I've got about 5 coats of 105 on now, spaced about 1-2 weeks apart (overkill I know) and I am keeping it up with AW. I decided to play around with some Collinite on a few of the surfaces, but I am expecting the DG stuff to do the job.
As you are planning, the coin-op is going to be used just for the clean water rinse down this winter to get the worst off, then I'll be using ONR to keep the truck clean. I tried this once already after a rain and a hunting trip when the truck had a nasty layer of crud, and the clean water rinse made almost everything just fall off...I think the DG did it's job very well.
Are they ever going to slow down the construction in Ankeny??
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Collinite Insulator Wax was what I used on the van last winter and I felt it did a good job. I might have comtinued with it if it had been availablr locally or at a decent shipping price on-line. The Dura Gloss is not that readily available locally, but it is available on-line with decent shipping charges. None of the Car Quest stores I checked carried the full line when I was first looking for it so I ordered it direct from Dura Gloss.

As far as Ankeny construction, I would think that when they have about 60% non rented spaces in some of the strip malls that it would have to slow down.
The housing is slowing down some and I think the market is changing. It seems like the demand is now for either housing under $150,000 or over $500,000. The 150 to 450 thousand housing has slowed considerably.

Charles
 
CharlesW said:
One thing that made me wonder about the 105 over the AW was the reference to AW as a wax.
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From everything I have heard and read, AquaWax is not a wax, nor does it contain any wax. I understand it to be a spray sealant, with sealant properties. I might be wrong on that, however, as I am definitely not a chemist nor have I ran extensive tests on the chemical makeup of the AW.
 
Aquawax is does not contain any wax...it is a polymer product....it has a polymer sealant in it very close to 105...and it can be applied over a wax ..I used it over collinite last winter and was very happy the way it worked...it seemed to make the wax non adhering to dirt if you know what I mean...

AW was made to work and bond to all their products..and they do make a creme wax which is a combo of polymer sealant and carnauba..it is 104.....

do the KISS method..keep it simple system..lol....105 x 2-3 times....AW every 6-8 week and you will have no problems for winter....

Al
 
In the past, my winter routine has been to reapply my LSP about every 4 to 6 weeks. That usually is possible through the winter.
The LSP has been 4 Star UPP for several years until last winter when I used the UPP on one vehicle and Collinite Insulator Wax on another. Both were first applied over a base of Klasse AIO.
It seems like I just need to accept that the AW is all I need to apply during the winter. I'm working on it though. :)

Charles
 
Charles..I used UPP the first year I got my truck..did the same as you..AIO with a UPP topper...I bought the truck in Jan 04...read here and got info...bought what I needed and used a friends garage to do my truck....I travel the pike daily..and it is a salt mine...after week my Red truck was white up to the door handles...I used a wand wash to clean off the salt and grit ..using a bucket and a mitt also with my soap..went at night when no lines....well come end of Feb..seems like everything died...beading was gone...harder to get the salt and grime off....time span of 7 weeks..I also used S&W to dry it ...I used no soap from the wand wash..just rinse water...

I know you live in simular conditions...and was wondering if you had same experience at any time...without any wax topper......I had 2 coats of UPP put on 3 days apart..and nothing else....I like UPP..but did not hold up to salt spray and snow or rain...


AL
 
AL-53 said:
Charles..I used UPP the first year I got my truck..did the same as you..AIO with a UPP topper...I bought the truck in Jan 04...read here and got info...bought what I needed and used a friends garage to do my truck....I travel the pike daily..and it is a salt mine...after week my Red truck was white up to the door handles...I used a wand wash to clean off the salt and grit ..using a bucket and a mitt also with my soap..went at night when no lines....well come end of Feb..seems like everything died...beading was gone...harder to get the salt and grime off....time span of 7 weeks..I also used S&W to dry it ...I used no soap from the wand wash..just rinse water...

I know you live in simular conditions...and was wondering if you had same experience at any time...without any wax topper......I had 2 coats of UPP put on 3 days apart..and nothing else....I like UPP..but did not hold up to salt spray and snow or rain...


AL
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It is very seldom that I will not apply more LSP before the 7 week mark so I can't really say how well the UPP would have lasted. It is also very seldom that my vehicles get that much salt build-up on them. Our winter driving seems to be mostly on roads with slower traffic so we don't get as much road spray like you get at 60 to 80 mph on the interstate highways. Due to conditions beyond my control, I was unable to add any LSP for something over 7 weeks one year. It was in the summer and the UPP seemed to hold up in not too difficult of conditions.
The Collinite IW on the Montana and UPP on the Grand Prix seemed to hold up fine for the 4 to 6 weeks between applications last year. Both were over Klasse AIO with no topper on either the UPP or the IW. If the Dura Gloss does as well, I will be happy. If the Dura Gloss does better, I will be even happier. :)

Charles
 
My ranger is now past 16 weeks with 105 and it still looks just like it did the day I put it on. I don't plan on adding any 105 until next fall 12 or 14 months.
If you don't use the harsh soap at the car wash and put some AW on every 6 weeks you should not need any 105 until next spring and you won't really need it then but I'm sure you will want to anyway. I think you are underestimating the durability of the 105.
 
black bart said:
My ranger is now past 16 weeks with 105 and it still looks just like it did the day I put it on. I don't plan on adding any 105 until next fall 12 or 14 months.
If you don't use the harsh soap at the car wash and put some AW on every 6 weeks you should not need any 105 until next spring and you won't really need it then but I'm sure you will want to anyway. I think you are underestimating the durability of the 105.
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Agreed. I have, among others here, have seen AW alone last a good two months. That says alot for a spray wax.
 
Dollar for Dollar..AW is probally the best spray sealant and most durable spray you can get for the money..and OTC to a point....I see it going 8 weeks plus...and when washing with the DG soap..it lasts longer...

As the chemist told me..All our products are made to work with each other and boost them...

They developed a car care system...products that interact with each other...

Al
 
Does 105 protect against the amino acids that are in eggs in case your car gets egged although highly unlikely it is.

thanx mongo
 
mongo said:
Does 105 protect against the amino acids that are in eggs in case your car gets egged although highly unlikely it is.

thanx mongo
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Here what it says!
Duragloss Total Performance Polish is a synthetic Polymer/Wax Formula. Super-tough coating forms a protective barrier which protect against acid rain, tree sap, bird droppings and other environmental pollutants.

So, eggs=acid, then I think it would work!
 
Ya Zaino is durable but it does not protect against water spots nor does it protect if your car gets egged ; Meguiars 21 does does as similar type amino-functional sealants. The 105 does probably protect against them as well.
 
mongo said:
Does 105 protect against the amino acids that are in eggs in case your car gets egged although highly unlikely it is.

thanx mongo
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Even if you remove the egg from your paint instantly, you will see that the eggshell does some serious damage to your paint. In my experience the impact of the egg can shatter your clearcoat. No LSP can protect against that unless the container gets btwn your car and the egg.
 
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