Minor Swirl Removal on Vette ...Products??

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pittguy79

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I have an '07 dark blue vette with minor swirls. Probabaly wash the car too often. I have an ultimate detailing machine and have been "practicing" on my daily drivers so I am comfortable with using the random orbital machine. I understand the vette clear is hard.

I have been a Megs product user.



Are Menzerna products the way to go? Others? What specific product recommendations?



Thanks!
 
I was just wondering the SAME thing. I am about to order today a Ultimate Detailing Machine but do not know if I should go with Sonus or Mezerna or?
 
Well corvette clear is rock hard, so I would suggest a rotary with 40 grit sandpaper to start...





Just kidding, but really you will get annoyed at how hard the vette clear is when trying to remove swirls. I would suggest 106ff because it will finish down perfectly but was designed for ceramic clearcoats (hard clearcoats).
 
ron231 said:
Well corvette clear is rock hard, so I would suggest a rotary with 40 grit sandpaper to start...





Just kidding, but really you will get annoyed at how hard the vette clear is when trying to remove swirls. I would suggest 106ff because it will finish down perfectly but was designed for ceramic clearcoats (hard clearcoats).
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You also might want to get some sip as hard as vette,s cc is.
 
Pittguy, I'm about to save you alot of time and money. I have a black C6 that I spent months on trying to figure out so here are two choices for ya. Either use a purple foamed/wool pad with Menzerna 106ff or use an orange foam pad with Menzerna Super Intensive Polish. If you don't have a rotory, you should buy one because you will need it with Corvette clear. After many, many polish trials these combinations work. C6 clear marrs VERY easily and is a bear to then correct. Moreover, you should PM me about washing techniques unless you have that process down precisely. You want to avoid marring at all cost so you can minimize the need for corrective polishing which is VERY time consuming on a C6.



Patrick
 
ptaylor_9849 said:
Pittguy, I'm about to save you alot of time and money. I have a black C6 that I spent months on trying to figure out so here are two choices for ya. Either use a purple foamed/wool pad with Menzerna 106ff or use an orange foam pad with Menzerna Super Intensive Polish. If you don't have a rotory you should buy one because you will need it with Corvette clear. After many, many polish trials these combinations work. C6 clear marrs VERY easy and is a bear to then correct. Notice that I recommend Menzerna SIP not IP. Moreover, you should PM me about washing techniques unless you have that process down precisely. You want to avoid marring at all cost so you can minimize the need for corrective polishing which is VERY time consuming on a C6.



Patrick
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i agree with patrick. i have an 07 C6 and got it about 30 hours after it was assembled in BG. when i received it still in the wrappers, the paint was perfect. i carefully washed it and immediately applied some IW845 and NXT. i have only washed it two times in 11 months and it still looks perfect (1,700 miles, no weather). i'll tell you that cleaning the finish improperly is the quickest way to marr this clear. i have owner two C5's that were the same way. once you get it corrected it will stay that way with proper care. good luck!
 
jimmie jam said:
i agree with patrick. i have an 07 C6 and got it about 30 hours after it was assembled in BG. when i received it still in the wrappers, the paint was perfect. i carefully washed it and immediately applied some IW845 and NXT. i have only washed it two times in 11 months and it still looks perfect (1,700 miles, no weather). i'll tell you that cleaning the finish improperly is the quickest way to marr this clear. i have owner two C5's that were the same way. once you get it corrected it will stay that way with proper care. good luck!
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You need to drive that beauty more!:xyxthumbs I have 13,000 miles on my black Porsche Carrera S. In the rain only twice and 12 track days at Sebring. I LOVE it!
 
I did a c6 about 2 months back and using a PC will be more frustrating than you're probably thinking. After working on the hood for 2 hours I finally got it swirl free and I said screw it and stepped up to my rotary with a foamed wool pad and Optimum HP and then a polishing pad with AIO before giving the entire vette 2 coats of Nattys Red. Needless to say, the convertible having less surface to do, took me almost 3 times as long as the customers Explorer which has almost twice as much surface to polish. Be prepared for a battle with that clear!
 
as you can see i own a vett, if the clear is so f-----g hard why does it swirl so easily? sorry just thought i'd ask.:waxing: :LOLOL
 
blucpe said:
as you can see i own a vett, if the clear is so f-----g hard why does it swirl so easily? sorry just thought i'd ask.:waxing: :LOLOL
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I have an 07 and I was wondering the exact same thing. The dealer installed my swirls for free.............
 


blucpe said:
if the clear is so f-----g hard why does it swirl so easily?
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That's something that baffles me as well, especially considering my father has a Volvo XC70 which has rock hard clear coat on it, but it's also very resistant to swirls. In fact he's taken his car through the soft cloth car washes twice a week for four years now and you can barely see any swirls in his paint at all! Sure, the color is a gold color which doesn't show defects as easily as black, but even on the lightest colored cars you can still find swirls if you look at it under the right lighting conditions. And I've looked over his finish from every angle possible under all kinds of light and I just cannot see many swirls at all. I wish my Corvette's clear was made from whatever stuff the Volvo's is made from!!
 
I have questioned the hardness of the clear as well. But after many hours of thought, I have come up with this. I think we use the term "HARD" as a way to describe the level of difficulty it takes to correct it. I don't think it really is all that hard after all. In fact, if it were really that hard, you couldn't scratch it with a course microfiber towel but believe me I've done it. It's just "HARD" to fix.:2thumbs:



Patrick
 
I recently detailed a black C5 and spend 8 hours trying to figure out the 'vettes paint. I thought I was going mad. I got some priceless help from several on this thread and MOL.



Simply put: Corvette paint is very hard - that is, it requires a lot of aggressive polishing to remove defects. However, to use Mike Phillips term, it's scratch-sensitive. That means that IF you manage to remove the swirls/scratches, the polish will leave micro-marring, especially on the curves. That's what I was battling with. I tried everything in my arsenal, from Megs to Menzerna to SSRs to 1Z to 3M. I managed to remove the bad stuff with an orange pad/Menz PG/BO6040 polisher.



The real battle began when I tried to refine the finish. Everything I used, no matter how much time I allowed to break the polish down, left micro-marring. I even tried the famous Menz ceramiclear polishes. It appeared to leave a beautiful finish. IPA wipe-down to remove the lubricating oils...marring still there! The oils where dramatically filling the marring. It looked perfect, glossy, dark black...until IPA.



Long story short: the only thing that broke down enough not to leave marring on the scratch-sensetive paint was the ol' faithful...#80. :up



It took me 40 hours to do it; the same time it took me on the stretched Hummer H2.



Here's a photo of the two:



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