Mf?

Im new to the forums here, but not to cars or detailing...For the longest time, all the major detailing firms like Meguiars would say, 'make sure your cotton cloth has no polyester'...and 'make sure you use no synthetics...only 100% cotton', etc...Im sure you know where Im going with this....Now, all of a sudden, the miracles of polyester are being touted! After years of being blamed for putting scratches in our clearcoat, we are now being told to use it....Whats going on? Is it just that its being cut differently, finer, or is there some clever marketing at play? Moreover, in an attempt to promote the MF stuff, were now being told that 100% cotton terry is too rough for our finishes!



Cmon, guys! They cant both be true...Doesnt this stretch credibility just a bit? Now even the same firms , meguiars for example, in the same web site will say, 'make sure to buff with only 100% cotton...', and, 'use our new polyster microfiber for the best finish...'



Whats up?
 
I don't know about roughness, but I can tell you why I use good quality MF's in one word - lint. It's very annoying to detail a car perfectly or as close to it as possible, and then get lint all over it from a cotton cloth. Quality MF's -> no lint. Beautiful.



As for scratching, I don't ever have a problem with the cotton cloths, but now I save them for the the in-between stages like buffing off SMR, etc. Never for the final buffing of wax. MF's also wipe up water streak free....so are good for Qd'ing and the like too.
 
any products you use will scratch, even the best cotton towels - the fact of life. it's just a matter of degree (how bad would it scratch/mar). i believe since microfiber threads are so minute (100x's thinner than a strand of hair), we just can't see them, which is good. that's how i rationalize using MFs.



plus they wick up so much water. all i use are 2 16x16 MFs to dry my black car.
 
I do not claim to be an expert but my belief is this.



We were told not to use a polyester blend in towels that looked like regular terry cloth towels because the polyester was much larger.



Now in the Micro Fiber towels they are just that, Microscopical Fibers, not only that but they are a blend of materials not just polyester. If you took the same MF towel and increased its thread size to a terry towel it would most definatly lose its scratchlessness because of the size of the fiber.



It is all in the size I think.



Bryan
 
everything runs the risk of scratching wherever there is contact



there are various forms of polyester in various shapes and sizes, same with every other fiber out there, plus other media such as foam



in order to judge for yourself a good relative test is a CD test. Some of the best microfibers will not marr a CD under a fair amount of pressure. That established a good baseline. Some objects you brush past a CD and scratch city. You can even check your own fingernail with a CD and see how much pressure you can get without scratching. You'll be amazed at how "soft" fingernails really are compared to a Nicsand towel on a CD :)



Now some materials will scratch a CD but won't scratch a car. (because a CD is a ton softer than a clearcoat) That's why the CD test is just relative, you would always need to test it on YOUR car to really determine what the effect on your car is. Cars' clears have different hardnesses and different colors expose marring more than others. Some cars it seems like their clears are softer than a CD, you just touch it and it marrs. That person should really be using the CD test more than all of us.



HTH-Steve
 
I understand your question and do not know why but, trust us. Quality MFs are great towels. I have a black car with crappy acura paint and I now only use MFs on the paint. Go figure.
 
Hello paul e,



Quality cotton towels are great but I prefer a micro fiber towel because ordinary cloths like a cotton towel will tend to push dirt and dust across a surface. Leaving residues behind on the surface area you’re cleaning. And its because of the lack of interior open spaces within the cotton fibers that makes these cotton towels hold very little dirt. Which puts a higher risk of scratching a surface like a cars paint.



Unlike, a micro fiber towel that has millions of tiny ‘scoops’ that pull dirt and dust up inside the cloth where they remain until washed away. So the results you get are clean, streak free surfaces. And it has a higher absorbency than cotton towels so it will quickly clean up spills.



Because I live in Hawaii, I'll use this analogy. I hope it makes sense.



When wiping a cotton towel across a surface is basically like a surfer on a wave that is all whitewashed. He is just being pushed along.



When wiping a micro fiber towel across a surface is basically like a surfer in a nice tube. You can't see him but he is locked in that tube. And at the last second, he pops out clean and goes over the wave.



Aloha,

~Ranney

:D
 
I bought mf towels from this supplier for really cheap.plush towels in all sizes here is his information you cant go wrong tom gong jt international 888 989 4584 e mail address [email protected] a 16x36 towel can be as low as 5.00 plus shipping
 
Are there any website which carry inexpensive, but high quality MF towels I can get started with? Or does that combo not exist in this product category?...
 
Their MF towels are of high-quality and are reasonably priced. Plus



Thanks BW...I just ordered me a starter set of 5 15" asst color mf terry towels...with no shpg charges!!...I guess I'll soon see what all the 'fuss' is about! Its about time, right? thanks again.
 
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