Menzerna's Agressive Order.......

[justin30513]

Is the correct order of aggressiveness from strong to weak?



- Menzerna Power Gloss S 34 A

- Menzerna Intensive Polish PO91L

- Menzerna Final Finish PO106FF

- Menzerna Final Finish PO85RD

- Menzerna Sealing Wax PO73

 

[imported_agentf11]

Looks about right to me.

 

[justin30513]

This whole time I thought P0166FF was the strongest they had!

 

[ptaylor_9849]

According to the owner of Proper Auto Care in Florida who deals heavily in Menzerna products, 106FF is stronger than Intensive Polish. The reason being is that the abrasive particles in 106FF are smaller than IP but there are many more of them. The list should read: Power Gloss, 106FF, Intensive Polish, Final Polish 2, Finshing Touch Glaze, FMJ.



Patrick

 

[chutney]

For technical details go to :

http://www.chemicalguys.co.uk/

Click on "polish", "menzerna" and then on "Official Menzerna Data Sheet"

You will have the correct order

Cheers

Philip

 

[Alfisti]

Here's the Data Sheet from Menzerna:



http://www.menzerna.de/files/e_polish web.pdf

 

[imported_agentf11]

According to the owner of Proper Auto Care in Florida who deals heavily in Menzerna products, 106FF is stronger than Intensive Polish. The reason being is that the abrasive particles in 106FF are smaller than IP but there are many more of them. The list should read: Power Gloss, 106FF, Intensive Polish, Final Polish 2, Finshing Touch Glaze, FMJ.



Patrick

I am not sure I believe this. If it is true 106ff is an even better polish than I thought since it finishes off beautifully.

 

[docker]

Per the Menz guide....



Product name - Number - Cut Gloss



- Menzerna Power Gloss - S 34 A - 5.0 1.5

- Menzerna Intensive Polish - PO91L - 3.5 3.0

- Menzerna Final Finish - PO85RD 3.01- 3.5 3.0

- Menzerna Final Finish - PO85RD 3 - 3.0 3.5

- Menzerna Final Finish - PO106FF - 2.5 5.0

- Menzerna Sealing Wax - PO73 - 0.0 5.0

 

[imported_Picus]

Regardless of what Proper says, 106FF does not have as much cut as Intensive Polish. I don't think anyone who has used them would agree that 106FF has more cut than IP. In my experience the order is something like this:



Power Gloss

Intensive Polish

PO8RD

P106FF = FPII (106FF finishes better than FPII).

PO73

 

[SpoiledMan]

Picus, there's less cut for sure with 85RD than 106FF.

 

[imported_Yal]

I thought the problem with categorizing 106FF was that it spans several levels depending on pad and machine. Am I wrong?

 

[imported_themightytimmah]

It usually goes:



PowerGloss (I used to use this and it's a real pain, likes to gum and sling)

IP (dusts, also a pain to use)

106FF (joy to use)

PO85RD (Absolute joy to use, best finishing polish I've used, minimal cut)



I'd stick with HTEC for heavy cutting and OHC for moderate cutting, 106FF for finishing.

 

[porta]

PO106FF seems to have more cut on a modern clear coat then PO91L(Intensive polish) IMO.

 

[imported_jgv]

Per the Menz guide....



Product name - Number - Cut Gloss



- Menzerna Power Gloss - S 34 A - 5.0 1.5

- Menzerna Intensive Polish - PO91L - 3.5 3.0

- Menzerna Final Finish - PO85RD 3.01- 3.5 3.0

- Menzerna Final Finish - PO85RD 3 - 3.0 3.5

- Menzerna Final Finish - PO106FF - 2.5 5.0

- Menzerna Final Finish - PO85RE5 - 2.0 5.0

- Menzerna Final Finish - PO85RD - 1.5 5.0

- Menzerna Sealing Wax - PO73 - 0.0 5.0

This is the correct list.



If you don't like PO91L because it dusts just go to PO85RD3.01, same abrasiveness but as easy to use as PO106FF :waxing:

 

[imported_jgv]

PO106FF seems to have more cut on a modern clear coat then PO91L(Intensive polish) IMO.

It works better, not a question of having more cutting power. The abrasives are diferent, smaller but more quantity and from a diferent type. It works great with a fine polishing pad where others will only scratch more

 

[imported_DieselMDX]

good info, i was looking for this

 

[justin30513]

This is the correct list.



If you don't like PO91L because it dusts just go to PO85RD3.01, same abrasiveness but as easy to use as PO106FF :waxing:

OK........



Where can I get all of this at in the States?

 

[imported_jgv]

I don't think they are all available there, at least at reasanoble prices, that's why sometimes we send them the States...

 

[porta]

OK........



Where can I get all of this at in the States?

Blackfire SRC compound is Menzerna PO85RD3.01

It works better, not a question of having more cutting power. The abrasives are diferent, smaller but more quantity and from a diferent type. It works great with a fine polishing pad where others will only scratch more

You are absolutley right, I was just not choosing the right words. PO106FF works much better then PO91L and is easier to use as well.



What are your toughts on the 106FA?

 

[imported_Picus]

Picus, there's less cut for sure with 85RD than 106FF.

I'm using a really old version of PO8RD, I find it actually has a little more cut than 106FF, but that might just be because my version is not the newest one. The one I have has almost as much cut (maybe as much) as IP.