menzerna powerlock sealant, made in germany?

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i was reading another forum i frequent and the question was asked with no answer really given. why does menzerna powerlock say menzerna usa. the only response was that menzerna would never put the name on sumthing not good but then the same people have slammed other menzerna stuf. whats the deal.
 
swirlhider said:
i was reading another forum i frequent and the question was asked with no answer really given. why does menzerna powerlock say menzerna usa. the only response was that menzerna would never put the name on sumthing not good but then the same people have slammed other menzerna stuf. whats the deal.
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I think someone has some agenda about this beyond just a casual agenda judging by how this topic is popping up on various forums.

If someone starts caring more about where things are made and who makes it and not how the product works, then they are not interested in the product end result. However, we all know preferences in detailing is often as much emotion than fact.
 
I think anyone interested in knowing a product's origin deserves the answer if possible. I don't find anything wrong with that. I'd be willing to bet that if the Power Lock didn't have a Menzerna USA label it wouldn't get 1/10 of the recognition it does. Certain people have certainly hyped this product to be more than it really is. From what I've been told, Menzerna (Germany) has no interest in manufacturing or distributing sealants, so it's US distributor Menzerna USA (a.k.a. Jeff Silver) developed a product to piggy back Menzerna's reputation. PL is manufactured in the USA and I can assure you it was not produced/manufactured by Menzerna (USA or Germany). It does make sense however for a company who successfully distributes a full line of polishes to tap into the sealant market as well. Not too sure how its sales are doing, but I have noticed that its flavor of the month life stage has somewhat dropped off. I think as more people observe/compare this product to others in the marketplace, people are less excited with its result.
 
David Fermani said:
I think anyone interested in knowing a product's origin deserves the answer if possible. I don't find anything wrong with that. I'd be willing to bet that if the Power Lock didn't have a Menzerna USA label it wouldn't get 1/10 of the recognition it does. Certain people have certainly hyped this product to be more than it really is. From what I've been told, Menzerna (Germany) has no interest in manufacturing or distributing sealants, so it's US distributor Menzerna USA (a.k.a. Jeff Silver) developed a product to piggy back Menzerna's reputation. PL is manufactured in the USA and I can assure you it was not produced/manufactured by Menzerna (USA or Germany). It does make sense however for a company who successfully distributes a full line of polishes to tap into the sealant market as well. Not too sure how its sales are doing, but I have noticed that its flavor of the month life stage has somewhat dropped off. I think as more people observe/compare this product to others in the marketplace, people are less excited with its result.
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Sounds like you are not too excited with PL. What is your favorite sealant if I may ask. The reason I ask is because I respect your opinion.
 
David Fermani said:
I think anyone interested in knowing a product's origin deserves the answer if possible. I don't find anything wrong with that. I'd be willing to bet that if the Power Lock didn't have a Menzerna USA label it wouldn't get 1/10 of the recognition it does. Certain people have certainly hyped this product to be more than it really is. From what I've been told, Menzerna (Germany) has no interest in manufacturing or distributing sealants, so it's US distributor Menzerna USA (a.k.a. Jeff Silver) developed a product to piggy back Menzerna's reputation. PL is manufactured in the USA and I can assure you it was not produced/manufactured by Menzerna (USA or Germany). It does make sense however for a company who successfully distributes a full line of polishes to tap into the sealant market as well. Not too sure how its sales are doing, but I have noticed that its flavor of the month life stage has somewhat dropped off. I think as more people observe/compare this product to others in the marketplace, people are less excited with its result.
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Well said David.
PL is certainly a nice sealant, and I think people are always exciting to see something new that is good on the market. The Flavor Of The Month mentality applies to everything, but there's always room for more good products to keep coming out. I don't care that PL isn't a true Menzerna product (IMO it's not at least), I only care about how I feel it performs. Of course I'd have more respect for companies that didn't push products as something they're not...
 
David Fermani said:
I think anyone interested in knowing a product's origin deserves the answer if possible. I don't find anything wrong with that. I'd be willing to bet that if the Power Lock didn't have a Menzerna USA label it wouldn't get 1/10 of the recognition it does. Certain people have certainly hyped this product to be more than it really is. From what I've been told, Menzerna (Germany) has no interest in manufacturing or distributing sealants, so it's US distributor Menzerna USA (a.k.a. Jeff Silver) developed a product to piggy back Menzerna's reputation. PL is manufactured in the USA and I can assure you it was not produced/manufactured by Menzerna (USA or Germany). It does make sense however for a company who successfully distributes a full line of polishes to tap into the sealant market as well. Not too sure how its sales are doing, but I have noticed that its flavor of the month life stage has somewhat dropped off. I think as more people observe/compare this product to others in the marketplace, people are less excited with its result.
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Are you sure about that. I smell a class action lawsuit if so :judge:

What is it about the product that you don't like David? I love it personally :Santa Smiley:
 
Flash Gordon said:
Are you sure about that. I smell a class action lawsuit if so :judge:

What is it about the product that you don't like David? I love it personally :Santa Smiley:
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I smell something else and as usual it stinks. When discussion gets away from how it works to other factors (who makes it), the other stink evolves. There are always personal agendas involved.
 
swirlhider said:
since when is curiosity an agenda
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Since when is hiding swirls fashionable. I would rather remove then hide <:-P

Honestly swirlhider I have no problem with your question. As a matter of fact, I had to retrieve my bottle of PL to see where it was made. I honestly could care less if a product is made in Tiawan as long as it preforms :money:
 
swirlhider said:
i was reading another forum i frequent and the question was asked with no answer really given. why does menzerna powerlock say menzerna usa. the only response was that menzerna would never put the name on sumthing not good but then the same people have slammed other menzerna stuf. whats the deal.
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Menzerna/USA Powerlock is a Menzerna USA product, As many other's have stated on this post, it really doesn't matter the country of origin (which I don't know), as it is the green stuff inside the bottle that matters more then label or name, or where it is poured. It is true that many of the best quality polymers in the market tend to come from Germany, but the country that they are blended together should make no difference in performance. For example Blackfire Wet Diamond uses primarily German sourced polymers (the high quality polymers are used, regardless of the country they come from), but it is blended and manufactured in the United States. Like a baby conceived on a romantic vacation in Paris, but born in the United States: Is the baby made in France or the USA? Okay I'm rambling... :scared:

I don't know where Powerlock is from and where it is made, blended, or born at, but I do know that it is a very very good sealant. The performance of the product speaks for itself, as some really good detailers prefer it, and it sells quite nicely.

To the second part of your question, Menzerna wouldn't license their name to something that wasn't good (I agree with that). Since Menzerna of Germany doesn't make sealants or car care products, we developed the 'Purple Label' Menzerna Car Care products when we launched Menzerna to the US consumer market in 2002. The same that holds true today as it did back then. I have read the posts where some people are misinformed but that's why Truth in Detailing exists, for those who are sick of hyperbole and confusion. I hope this helped.
 
I'm not sure of its origin but hearing both raves and disappointments peaked my interest so I ordered a 32oz bottle.

As with all Menzerna products I read the instruction carefully and even went to their website to see if there were any watch-outs to be aware of and there weren't any.

After washing then claying the side of my truck I applied a nice thin coat of Power Lock with my Porter Cable 7424 and a blue Lake Country pad. The product spread evenly and cleanly and my goal was to ensure thin but adequate coverage.

After 30 minutes or so I buffed it off with a Microfiber towel and was very impressed with the results. The entire side was very glossy and since this stuff is not cheap it was what I had hoped for.

The truck was parked in the garage overnight to allowing proper flashing and curing and I applied a coat of Collinite 845 the next day for added protection..

Menzerna Power Lock Paint Sealant - I'll give a :thumbup:
 
Flash Gordon said:
Are you sure about that. I smell a class action lawsuit if so :judge:

What is it about the product that you don't like David? I love it personally :Santa Smiley:
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Not too sure how a law suit could develop from all this hype (aka marketing) but hey, anything could happen. And yes, I?m very certain that PL isn?t made in Germany or by Menzerna GMBH. I haven?t gone to the manufacturing facility to see this with my own eyes but was told from several sources within the manufacturing/blending industry that claim it?s a local offering. I?ve never said I didn?t like the product, just don?t care for all the inaccurate hoopla surrounding it. It?s being marketed by certain retailers as something it isn?t, which right there is enough to sour my attitude towards it.

Case in point:

Product Description
Menzerna Power Lock Polymer Sealant is Menzerna's first pure sealant that will give your paint a deep shine and valuable protection. Use the Menzerna Power Lock Polymer Sealant and you'll see why Menzerna is regarded as one of the top manufacturers of high quality detailing supplies.

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Apr 3, 2010 ... this is the new and improved polymer sealant from Menzerna, a much improved version over the Menzerna FMJ.

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Menzerna, the maker of fine polishing compounds, offers you another innovative option for paint protection: Menzerna Power Lock Polymer Paint Sealant.

Neither of these descriptions are true statements. It?s not being offered by Menzerna, the maker of fine polishing compounds. That?s where my piggyback statement comes from and is blatatanly not accurate. It?s offered from Menzerna USA (who isn?t a manufacturer) and is made for them.


Bunky said:
I smell something else and as usual it stinks. When discussion gets away from how it works to other factors (who makes it), the other stink evolves. There are always personal agendas involved.
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I?d love to see you elaborate on this Bunky.
 
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