Meguiars M105 question..problem

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Fly5465

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Hey all,

I'm new to the M105 and I'm trying to use it with my Cyclo polisher with green pads. My vehicle is white. Anyway I primed the pads and went over a section on my hood. I'm not sure if I'm not going long enough or to long, or what my problem is.



After working the polish for a while then I I then try to wipe it off with a MF towel. But holy cow its really hard to get off? I end up having to use some quick detailer or some Final inspection 34 that I have. Even then I have to rub like crazy to get it off?



What am I doing wrong? Should I work it longer? Should I work it less? It will take me forever doing it the way I'm going now?



Thanks,

FLY5465 - Arizona
 
Sounds like the old formula of M105. Sounds like you are working it too long, but I don't have any experience with the cyclo. When I have issues removing it, I use straight IPA. I spray it on the MF 2-3x and it wipes away clean. You are also ensuring that you are doing real correction.
 
Fly5465- I've yet to use M105 with my Cyclos, but it sounds to me like you're working it too long.



I somehow bet that you have the v2.0 (which will say it's OK for DA/hand use on the bottle).



M105 can flash/dry pretty fast, and the Cyclo flashes some products more quickly than one might expect (KAIO is a good example).



You *might* be using too much product, but it's hard to say. That *would* result in hard-to-remove residue but it would also diminish the quick-flashing so :nixweiss



Is there dry/caked product on the pads? That would indicate you're working it too long.



Don't work large areas. Try 12" x 12" or so.



To lessen the work time, try working it for six "passes", meaning six movements across the area of operation. Each of those might take maybe five seconds, so we're only talking about maybe half a minute or so.



If that's too short you can always work it longer, but I somehow bet that's less time than you're working it now.



The M105 doesn't break down anyhow, it just dries out as the oils/carrier agents evaporate. So buffing it off too soon probably won't cause any real problems but will just cut down on the amount of work that's getting done.



This is one of those products you don't need to work for a long time.



And there's nothing wrong with using #34 when buffing off M105 residue, it's good for minimizing any hazing. It's just that it shouldn't be absolutely *necessary*.



Summary:

-Check that the pads are primed properly and that you're not using too much/not enough product

-Work smaller areas

-Don't work the product too long

-Try to buff it off before it's dried completely

-Check your pads for dried product to gauge whether you need to alter something
 
Thanks all,

Your all very helpful. Well, I tried several things and its going better now. I think I was using to much product for one. Also, I'm now working it longer and it seems to be going better. I'm not getting any "caking" on the pads. Also I'm trying to do a smaller area as Accumulator suggested. I'm working inside my garage and it's in the shade, but then again its 100 degrees already (Arizona).



I think white is a hard color to see whats going on. There doesn't seem to be as much reflection in white as other colors. Anyway, I think its looking better and it feels much smoother now after the clay bar, then M105 and M205.



Thanks again for everyone's help, I REALLY appriciate it!



Fly5465
 
Fly5465 said:
.. I tried several things and its going better now. I think I was using to much product for one. Also, I'm now working it longer and it seems to be going better. I'm not getting any "caking" on the pads. ..
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Ah, working it *longer*, OK, with no caking that sounds good. And yeah, it's easy to get into the "use more to do more" mindset, even though that doesn't really work.



Remember to clean the pads pretty frequently.



Glad you're getting things dialed-in.
 
Just an update on my detailing project....



I have figured out what works for me with the M105 and a cyclo polisher. I'm using a little less product that earlier and working it longer. I can continue to work it until its almost gone on the panel. Then it wipes off easily. I dont think I'm working it to long because there in no "caking" on the pads.



I'm using the orange pads on the Cyclo with the M105 and I'm surprised how nice it polishes up with M105. I think I could just wax it when finished as it looks pretty good. However I'm going to go over the whole thing agian with M205 before waxing it.



My vehicle is a 2002 Toyota 4x4 that is white. I have some scratches in the paint from 4 wheeling in the brush. Not through the paint, but I have a few pretty good scratches. With the Cyclo and the M105 on orange pads I was able to remove 90% of my offroading scratches. I just cant get the last 10%. The remaining scratches look much better because they are "rounded?" and shinny. However in just the right light if you look closely you can still see them. But like I said it MUCH better now and you really have to look hard to see them.



I wonder if I would be able to get these scratches out 100% if I had a PC7424 with an orange pad and the M105??? I may have to get one to try in the near future.



So far I have completed the truck with the M105. Tomorrow I'm going to go over it with the M205, then wax. I had to quite for the day as it now about 108 in my garage.



I'm no expert (like many of you) but I would have to say I'm impressed with the M105 using the Cyclo. I can't imagine it will get that much better after going over it with the M205, but we'll see??



Thanks everyone agian for all the support and good info on this sight.



Fly5465 - Arizona
 
Fly5465 said:
Just an update on my detailing project....



I have figured out what works for me with the M105 and a cyclo polisher. I'm using a little less product that earlier and working it longer. I can continue to work it until its almost gone on the panel. Then it wipes off easily. I dont think I'm working it to long because there in no "caking" on the pads...
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If it's not drying out/caking on the pads/sticking to the paint then you're not overworking it :xyxthumbs

I'm using the orange pads on the Cyclo with the M105 and I'm surprised how nice it polishes up with M105. I think I could just wax it when finished as it looks pretty good. However I'm going to go over the whole thing agian with M205 before waxing it.
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Heh heh, yeah, that's what I thought the first time I used M105; it sure does finish out nicely. But just wait until you try the M205 ;)



I wonder if I would be able to get these scratches out 100% if I had a PC7424 with an orange pad and the M105??? I may have to get one to try in the near future.
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I dunno if a) it'd be worth thinning the clear over, or b) worth doing anyhow. Just because you can see them during a meticulous inspection that might not mean you need to eliminate them to be satisfied with how it looks. And nobody else will ever notice (not that anybody else's opinion oughta matter ;) ).



The PC with 3.5/4" pads can do stuff the Cyclo can't though. It can be a *LOT* more aggressive.

So far I have completed the truck with the M105. Tomorrow I'm going to go over it with the M205, then wax. I had to quite for the day as it now about 108 in my garage.
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My wife and I used to do outdoor stuff in AZ during the month of June...yeah, it gets hot all right!



I would have to say I'm impressed with the M105 using the Cyclo. I can't imagine it will get that much better after going over it with the M205, but we'll see??
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Even on white I think you'll see a difference. M205 is very user-friendly IME too. Glad it's going well.
 
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