Meguiar ultimate quick detailer on 'fresh' paint?

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efnfast

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Would you be concerned about using meguiars UQD on a fresh (1-month old) paint job? I used it to remove water spotting today after washing it, but then began to wonder if there's anything in there that might be harmful to 'fresh'ish paint, that wouldn't let the solvents finish degassing?



Should I do anything, like go over the car tomorrow with a very very very mild polish, or do you think I'm okay? :think:



edit: this isn't production paint btw, it's dupont, not baked to my knowledge.
 
howareb said:
Believe me....You are AAAA OK.
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I realized that I didn't clarify this isn't production paint from the factory - it's dupont, custom spray job, no baked. Does that change anything?
 
Dupont maakes a wide selection of automotive paints. Most automotive paints today are baked. Depending on where you are some paintshop are switching over to water based paints, which have an entire different set of rules.



I would say however that the chances of you having a water-based paint appllied to your car is slim. Being that it is custom, contact the bodyshop about this situation. However I am more than sure that you are OK even with custom paint after you waited your 30 day period like you stated in your post.
 
Normally I would, but they arn't exactly.....swift....when it comes to technical details. They do an incredible spray job, just not good with the technicals.



My understanding is that they sprayed the base, let it sit for like a week or something, then did the clear, let it sit another week, then wetsanded and polished it - no baking.





When i asked about applying some 3m clear bra, they told me to wait 2 or 3weeks then do it, not hte usual 60-90days.....so it makes me a bit leery to trust anything they say.
 
Using the paint system that you described, they are using ordinary modern day automotive paint. You are fine. Wheter they baked it or not, if they let it dry for the amount of time that you stated, then you are fine. Once a paint is mixed with a hardner, it does not take it very long to air dry either. Baking is used in many cases to speed the process so that a painter can begin sanding and buffing.



The 60-90 day wait period is based on older paint systems, not today's clear coats. Most body shops around me quote 30 days, but even that is not necessary. There are various threads about this topic on here. However to make a long story short, you are fine with putting UQD on if 30 days has passed IMO.
 
UQD leaves polymers behind, and polymers interfere with gassing. so uqd should be a no no, until the period they give you is over.. id ask them asap, and see what they say.even if theyre not good with technical details, if you ask, and they say its fine, and u end up with fisheyes all over your paint, then they might be a little more apt to fix it ... just my opinion
 
This morning I had the time to try and find a couple of articles by Mike Phillips that I read in the past. Mike states in the HotRod Article that the average wait is 60 days , with the range being from 30-90 days. The forum article states 30-60 or sometimes longer depending upon the painter. Both articles should help you out. I am still under the opinion that you would be fine, but if you feel uncomfortable then remove the UQD.





Articles

Ultimate Guide to Paint and Body Part 10 - Hot Rod Magazine



Paint Needs to Breathe - Car Care Forums: Meguiar's Online
 
I ~think~ I would fine, but *sigh* being an autopean (i.e., obsessive compulsive) it'd eat away at me driving my crazy. I guess I"ll wash it off and hit it with some 106+white pad, just to be absolutely certain.
 
For the first 30-90 days after a repaint only "body shop safe" products should be used on paint. All Meguiar's Mirror Glaze products (except the sealants/waxes) are body shop safe. Because you should have used M135, which is essentially the same thing as UQD only it is body shop safe. UQD may also be body shop safe, it just isn't advertised as such. You should be fine, I still would only use body shop safe product for a while anyway.
 
Megs Quik QD is adequate if you are in a pinch. Actually if you do not have an lsp on the paint then I would think that it is harmless.



To be honest, I do not think highly of the Megs. There are quite a few qds (on the net and OTC) that are miles ahead of Meg's QD in terms of quality. I would definitely shop the competing brands, and keep the Megs handy (for cleaning tools lol....j/k) for emergencies. Just my op.
 
JimmyCutlass said:
For the first 30-90 days after a repaint only "body shop safe" products should be used on paint. All Meguiar's Mirror Glaze products (except the sealants/waxes) are body shop safe. Because you should have used M135, which is essentially the same thing as UQD only it is body shop safe. UQD may also be body shop safe, it just isn't advertised as such. You should be fine, I still would only use body shop safe product for a while anyway.
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Just an FYI....



Neither UQD or M135 are body shop safe. The Mirror Glaze line has both body shop safe items and non-body shop safe items.
 
howareb said:
Just an FYI....



Neither UQD or M135 are body shop safe. The Mirror Glaze line has both body shop safe items and non-body shop safe items.
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I (wrongly) assumed that M135 was body shop safe because I recall reading that all Mirror Glaze products are body shape safe that are not sealants/waxes. I guess that because it leaves polymers it would be in a similar category as a sealant/wax Now that I've thought of it, I realize that the polymers would obviously prevents out gassing. To what degree, I do not know.
 
Well, I polished it with 106 and a white pad. Hey, good excuse to go over any defects I missed when I did orange/PFW+SIP ; black+!06. :chuckle:



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Okay, next stupid question - will blue painters tape affect paint solvent degassing? The rear fenders get beat to crap very quickly (when I was driving in primer, they were toast after 800miles). Right now after every wash I've been covering them with 2 layers of blue painter's tape. Then remove during next wash and re-apply. Was going to do this for 2-3mths until I can get some clear bra on that area.



Is it a bad idea to have blue painters tape on freshly painted area, or will solvents still be able to degass?
 
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