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Street5927

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I have been using the MF system now for a couple of months for clients who want a 80-85% correction, and like it very much for a one step process. I have been having issues with the Velcro backing separating from the cutting disc only. I went through two brand new discs on one car because the Velcro backing separated. The weird thing is that this only seems to happen when using the PC, and not the Flex. I am usi the 5" pads on speed 4 with the PC. Has anyone else experienced Velcro backing failure with the cutting discs?
 
I haven't had any separation issues, but I have noticed after several uses the velcro is fuzzing a bit when I remove the disc from the backing plate.
 
I've had the same issue. I've had it happen on a PC and on a CG6; speed 5 for extended period of time and the velcro comes right off. I had 10 mf cutting pads, down to 3-4 now. :/
 
sal329 said:
I use Chemical Guys DA BP and have had zero problems
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I use the same one, I also have the megs ventilated bp and a couple LC. All the mf discs I've lost have been on the CG DA BP. (if you mean this one: 3m buffing pads, 3m polishing, auto buffing pads 6)



animes2k said:
Spray adhesive from 3m has worked well for other pads that have delaminated. Might be worth trying to fix.
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I tried it on one, seems fine so far. Still a crummy solution.
 
Street5927 said:
I have been using the MF system now for a couple of months for clients who want a 80-85% correction, and like it very much for a one step process.
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Why are you only able to achieve 80-85% with the system? And, how are you doing a 1 step "system" when it actually involves doing "2" steps?





Street5927 said:
I have been having issues with the Velcro backing separating from the cutting disc only. I went through two brand new discs on one car because the Velcro backing separated. The weird thing is that this only seems to happen when using the PC, and not the Flex. I am usi the 5" pads on speed 4 with the PC. Has anyone else experienced Velcro backing failure with the cutting discs?
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2 pads destroyed on 1 vehicle is very strange? Especially on speed 4!!! What backing plate are you using with them? Have you ever used ANY other polishes/compounds with these pads? Can you please post pictures of these damaged pads? I will certainly do my best to help provide you with an answer once these questions are answered.
 
David, I understand your "2" step question, however. I guess what I meant was a 1 step correction. For whatever reason, I have not been able to remove heavier scratches using the sytstem, so I am only getting an 80-85% correction on these types of vehicles. Yes, two step, but instead of using the Megs finishing wax, I will use a sealant such as BFWD or Autoglym EGP and then top with Dodo Juice Double wax. I have not had the opportunity to try the Megs Finishing Wax on my own vehicle before applying to a customer's vehicle. I just feel more comfortable tyring the durability on my own before using it on someone else's vehicle.



I have not tried any other polishes with these pads; and unfortunately, I discarded the pads in frustration once the velcro backing came off. I am using the Lake Country 5" Backing plate.
 
David Fermani said:
Why are you only able to achieve 80-85% with the system? And, how are you doing a 1 step "system" when it actually involves doing "2" steps?









2 pads destroyed on 1 vehicle is very strange? Especially on speed 4!!! What backing plate are you using with them? Have you ever used ANY other polishes/compounds with these pads? Can you please post pictures of these damaged pads? I will certainly do my best to help provide you with an answer once these questions are answered.
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I haven't had one go at speed 4 but I have to admit I am not surprised he's lost a couple. As I mentioned I've gone through a few - usually at speed 5 they will separate. I'm not really that concerned, I like them enough to live with it, but it's a little annoying.
 
Picus said:
I haven't had one go at speed 4 but I have to admit I am not surprised he's lost a couple. As I mentioned I've gone through a few - usually at speed 5 they will separate. I'm not really that concerned, I like them enough to live with it, but it's a little annoying.
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...and a little costly. I just placed an order for more MF discs...hopefully they will last longer than one use on half a car.
 
I've only had two pads fail since Last November and I use them on almost all cars....usually one pad per car too. If you guys are staying at 4800opm or below and using the Meguiar's backing plate, then I'm not sure why they are failing. If you're using them as designed call up Meguiar's and I'm sure they will replace them no problem.



How are you cleaning them?
 
I've polished an Expedition, MDX, and M105/M205'ed a Silverado extended cab all with the first 2 MF pads I received with my "kit" without any problems so far, however I have had this awkward feeling that the velcro backing will be the first to fail on these amazing pads :-/. I'm using a GG 6" DA with the 5" Megs MF pads on a Megs BP and have always used 2 pads to do a vehicle (or in the case of the 105/205 job I did it panel by panel, allowing the pads time to cool down a bit in between uses). Typically my pads see speed 4.5-5.5 for the correction discs. I'm sure my pads will now spontaneously combust now that I've said this...

Sort of OT...how much are you paying for your MF discs? I can't find them cheaper than ~$19/pad on-line (not including shipping), at this point its almost cheaper to just buy the whole MF correction kit and get the wax and compound bottles for free with another BP (and apron!)...
 
Who knows, maybe I am doing something wrong. Maybe a bad batch. I don't go over 4800 opm, clean them with compressed air and a pad cleaning brush. I'm using a PC with either the CG BP or the Megs 6" (the one with the holes) or a GG 6" with the GG BP.
 
Street5927 said:
....I have not tried any other polishes with these pads; and unfortunately, I discarded the pads in frustration once the velcro backing came off. I am using the Lake Country 5" Backing plate.
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This is a small part of Chad Raskovich (aka Rasky)revew rearding the da/mf system:



Meguiar’s strongly recommends that you use their backing plates with this system. The hook and loop backing is different and it allows easier pad removal, and it also helps keep the pads cooler. For the 6″ pads you will want to get the S6BP backing plate. For the 5″ pads you will want to get the W67DA backing plate. For the 3″ pads you’ll need to get the S3BP backing plate. I was using non-Meguiar’s backing plates at first and there is definitely a difference.
 
Normally I'd think that it would be a marketing ploy in order to buy more of their products, but when i compare the Megs BP compared to my GG and CG BP's, the urethane/plastic main body is significantly thinner on the Megs version. Not so sure if the BP alone would cause such drastic results in pad failure but who knows.
 
SpoolinNoMore said:
I've polished an Expedition, MDX, and M105/M205'ed a Silverado extended cab all with the first 2 MF pads I received with my "kit" without any problems so far, however I have had this awkward feeling that the velcro backing will be the first to fail on these amazing pads :-/. I'm using a GG 6" DA with the 5" Megs MF pads on a Megs BP and have always used 2 pads to do a vehicle (or in the case of the 105/205 job I did it panel by panel, allowing the pads time to cool down a bit in between uses). Typically my pads see speed 4.5-5.5 for the correction discs. I'm sure my pads will now spontaneously combust now that I've said this...

Sort of OT...how much are you paying for your MF discs? I can't find them cheaper than ~$19/pad on-line (not including shipping), at this point its almost cheaper to just buy the whole MF correction kit and get the wax and compound bottles for free with another BP (and apron!)...
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Actually it's more like $10/pad before shipping since you get two pads per package. I haven't priced them out in a while but I think you save more if you buy them in pack of 10.



People also need to keep in mind that your only using 1 or 2 pads per car vs. 3-4 foam pads per car. On top of that your either removing an extra correction step by using the MF pads, or your getting more correction than you normally would with traditional foam. Win win win in my book.



I actually find the MF durability to be very good compared to the pad life I typically see from my LC foam pads. Granted pads can and will fail from time to time but even if I were to only get 2-3 cars per pad...that's just fine in my book. However mine have last considerably longer than that. Another way to look at it is that even if you only getting 2-3 cars from a MF pad, you would have to do 6-9 cars with a foam pad to get the same amount of use from them (assuming you change your pads this often).



Using less pads also means less space needed for storage (not to mention they are thin anyway) and it also means less pads to clean up...I know I HATE cleaning pads, don't you?



All I can offer for advice is to use them is suggested and monitor your pad temps while you polish. If you notice the pad seems to be getting pretty warm, it's probably not a bad idea to swap it out for a new one.



If you do have a premature pad failure call up the Meguiar's Customer Service and they will take care of you. It is likely they will want the failed pad sent back to them so that they can investigate the cause so be sure that you don't throw them away.





Hope this helps,

Rasky
 
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