What sealer or wax product would you recommend to give maximum protection to a car during the winter months without regards to shine? Winters in Northeast Ohio and tons of road salt can be rough on a car's paint. I'm looking for a product that will have maximum durability and I don't care about how well it shines. If the car looks dull all winter that's fine with me. Protection that lasts a long time is all that matters to me during the winter. Any suggestions? Thank you.
Maximum durability without regards to shine?
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Welcome to DC!
Since you aren't getting too many responses just yet, this will at least bump your question back to the top for a while.
Shine & durability don't have to be one or the other.
Several products do a good job at both.
My personal vehicles don't have that problem because of the frequency of application, but I do have 3 others I sometimes take care of and some of the products that have worked for me:
Duragloss #105 TPP. Applied over Duragloss #501 which might do pretty good on its own. That's not a typo, I do mean #501
Collinite #845 IW. Applied over a good paint cleaner/prep. I have used Poorboy's PwS, Klasse AIO, Optimum Poli-Seal, Duragloss #501, Meguiar's ColorX.
Another that has good durability, but was a PIA for me to use was Collinite #476 Paste.
I think any of those will last 4 to 6 months and look good doing it.
I'm sure you will hear about several others. Lots of good products out there.
Since you aren't getting too many responses just yet, this will at least bump your question back to the top for a while.
Shine & durability don't have to be one or the other.
Several products do a good job at both.
My personal vehicles don't have that problem because of the frequency of application, but I do have 3 others I sometimes take care of and some of the products that have worked for me:
Duragloss #105 TPP. Applied over Duragloss #501 which might do pretty good on its own. That's not a typo, I do mean #501
Collinite #845 IW. Applied over a good paint cleaner/prep. I have used Poorboy's PwS, Klasse AIO, Optimum Poli-Seal, Duragloss #501, Meguiar's ColorX.
Another that has good durability, but was a PIA for me to use was Collinite #476 Paste.
I think any of those will last 4 to 6 months and look good doing it.
I'm sure you will hear about several others. Lots of good products out there.
Luster
COMPULSIVELY ANAL
Zaino Z2Pro will give you several months of protection... The by-product of that protection will be the extreme shine!
The by-product of that protection will be the extreme shine!
Troy@Protekt
a.k.a. Troy@DetailCity
One thing I want to emphasize that Charles touched on. Proper paint prep will significantly increase the life of the wax or sealant. The surface needs to be clean and contaminant free before applying anything for protection if you want maximum performance out of it.
I personally have never really liked Collinite but I know many respectable detailers that do and it is known for it's durability so that would probably be my suggestion as well. Poorboy's EXP, Klasse Sealant Glaze and Ultima Paint Guard are a few others I can think of off hand that offer great durability.
:cheers:
I personally have never really liked Collinite but I know many respectable detailers that do and it is known for it's durability so that would probably be my suggestion as well. Poorboy's EXP, Klasse Sealant Glaze and Ultima Paint Guard are a few others I can think of off hand that offer great durability.
:cheers:
Bunky
Detailing Gnosis
Why - look, application?
I was thinking about a poll on people who did *not* Collinite. There are a few that say it is not really more durable but many seem to be applying Collinite for the winter is more akin to eating Hoppin' John on New Years -- just tradition.
Bunky
Detailing Gnosis
Why - look, application?
I was thinking about a poll on people who did *not* Collinite. There are a few that say it is not really more durable but apply Collinite for the winter is more akin to eating Hoppin' John on New Years -- tradition.
BTW, I applied some 476 to a test spot on my truck hood along with some others (Mothers, Nattys, 1z Glaz, NXT2.0) for a test before I polish it up next month.
Troy@Protekt
a.k.a. Troy@DetailCity
Yep both. It has been a long time since I have used Collinite though so my opinion might be different now a days.
I'm afraid I couldn't really understand what you were saying the rest of the post. :sorry:
BenzDetailer
New member
CHEMICAL GUYS - BUTTER WET WAX or WET MIRROR FINISH - VERY VERY EXTREME SHINE / WET LOOK But will need to be redone every few weeks - Great for the OCD detailer!! :yay
Could be all that, but.....
He is looking for "Maximum durability without regards to shine". That seems to be about 180 degrees from the products you mentioned.
For me, the #845 Insulator Wax was easy to apply and remove and I was happy with the look.
The 476S was not easy to remove for me. It could have been a user problem, but I gave it away rather than try to figure it out. The 476 also looked good.
termigator
New member
I would go with Zaino AIO and then Z2Pro.
blk45
It's all in the prep!
Welcome to DC!
Since you aren't getting too many responses just yet, this will at least bump your question back to the top for a while.
Shine & durability don't have to be one or the other.
Several products do a good job at both.
My personal vehicles don't have that problem because of the frequency of application, but I do have 3 others I sometimes take care of and some of the products that have worked for me:
Duragloss #105 TPP. Applied over Duragloss #501 which might do pretty good on its own. That's not a typo, I do mean #501
Collinite #845 IW. Applied over a good paint cleaner/prep. I have used Poorboy's PwS, Klasse AIO, Optimum Poli-Seal, Duragloss #501, Meguiar's ColorX.
Another that has good durability, but was a PIA for me to use was Collinite #476 Paste.
I think any of those will last 4 to 6 months and look good doing it.
I'm sure you will hear about several others. Lots of good products out there.
Great advice as usual Charles.
Excellent and valid point!
There are quite a few options. Luckily for you, they all stay pretty shiny as a by product.
As mentioned, both Collinites work very well. The 845 is a liquid and is easier to work with, but is a little less durable. The 476 is a paste and some find it harder to work with, but it will last longer. I don't have any issues with the 476. As long as you put it on VERY thin, it isn't hard to get off. Some will even wipe it off before it completely hazes. Both of these are very reasonably priced as well.
Duragloss also makes some very durable and reasonably priced stuff. You can usually find it OTC as well. As Charles mentioned, their 501 is a great paint cleaner and base for the 105. If you don't use the 501, then I would recommend using their 601 (PBA) bonding agent. If you use the 601, apply the 601 to the paint, let it sit and haze, and then without wiping it off, apply the 105 over it. After that hazes and sits up, wipe both of them off together. If you want to apply multiple layers, you need to let each one cure for 12-24 hours before applying another layer.
Another option is FK (Finish Kare) 1000P. It can be layered without the extended wait times of normal sealants.
I haven't used it myself, but Zaino is known for being very durable too.
tuscarora dave
"Luck" Residue of design
I applied Collinite #845 IW on thanksgiving day and it was still beading nicely on valentines day when I re applied it. Collinite has a very unique water beading size, this is why I use the beading as a guage to whether it was still on there three months later. whether you like shine or not if you allpy this wax you will get unbelievable shine. Here in central PA they use road salt and potassium cloride which is said to be even harder on the car than plain old road salt. The bottle even says that the wax resists salt spray. Now that the winter is over I preffer Poorboys EXP. I hope this is helpful...TD
Bullitt
Showroom Auto Detailing
+2 for the DuraGloss 501/105. I love this combo and it's easy to come by if you don't feel like paying shipping and waiting right now. The prep is a very vital part in this system just like the others said. You don't want to seal in any contaminant. I used Meg's 205 followed by 3m Ultrafina, then applied the DG products on my company truck a few months back, and it still feels like glass and beads like crazy.