Machine application issues ... It was the PADS!

Don

Don

Darth Camaro 12/27/15
IT WAS THE PADS!!

So like I mentioned earlier, I was going to use a Meguiar's yellow polishing pad to see if I had any better luck applying the Ult Liquid... MAN DID I EVER! 4 dime sized drops to prime the pad and that amount did the entire hood, 4 more drops, the entire roof and 2 drops the trunk lid. After that 4 drops would do two complete panels. I did have to go over each panel several times, because I couldn't really see for sure where it had been applied and where it hadn't.

For removal, there was no buffing involved, just an easy wipe with a clean microfiber, this is where I found out for sure I had covered every bit of the car, there was a light tug, then smoothness on the second pass. There were no oily swirls, streaks, dark patches, nothing but paint with a super high gloss ... I'm extremely pleased with the process and the results. My suggestion to anyone having trouble like I was ... switch to a slightly firmer pad, it makes a world of a difference
 
What pads were you using?

I had tried using a Rupes with a HT Crimson and it seemed to hop a little so switched back to B&S blue and problem solved.
 
Bunky said:
What pads were you using?

I had tried using a Rupes with a HT Crimson and it seemed to hop a little so switched back to B&S blue and problem solved.
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I was using LC variable contact black finishing pads (they were old, but in good shape). The pads absorbed a good 90 percent of the Ult Wax and never released it onto the paint and one of them collapsed on me. I didn't let the second one get that far, because I had recognized the signs of collapse and just quit using it and went to hand application. The LC pads were A LOT softer and more absorbent than the Megs hand applicator pad and the Megs yellow polishing pads were more like the hand applicator in in firmness and aggressiveness.

I did get a little color off of the roof (ss paint) but all in all things went extremely well with near perfect THIN, THIN, THIN application. Just a whisper of product on the paint. The polishing pad even seemed to clean up well after soaking in a 1:1 Simple Green solution for about two hours. So my opinion is that some finishing pads are just too soft & absorbent for sealant/wax application.
 
Just my $.02, but I think sometimes a softer (less dense) pad sucks and holds product deep in the pad instead of putting it down on the surface. 'It's said' (somewhere) that these softer pads are for for LSP application, but I think my white 'polishing' pad (a medium density) works better.
 
MiVor said:
Just my $.02, but I think sometimes a softer (less dense) pad sucks and holds product deep in the pad instead of putting it down on the surface. 'It's said' (somewhere) that these softer pads are for for LSP application, but I think my white 'polishing' pad (a medium density) works better.
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Well, I'm "proof" of "What's said somewhere." The firmer, denser pad was the magic bullet for my troubles.
 
Don said:
Well, I'm "proof" of "What's said somewhere." The firmer, denser pad was the magic bullet for my troubles.
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What I meant was that pad mfg's recommend the softer (less dense) pads for LSP's (perhaps just to sell more), but they just don't seem to work as well as the firmer (higher density) pads.
 
MiVor said:
What I meant was that pad mfg's recommend the softer (less dense) pads for LSP's (perhaps just to sell more), but they just don't seem to work as well as the firmer (higher density) pads.
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An expensive lesson for me, since I wasted so much UPW on only 3 cars
 
Don- Glad you got things dialed in. I too generally prefer firmer pads; as long as the pad doesn't have any cut in-and-of itself it's usually soft enough for me to LSP with. Wasn't all *that* long ago that they simply didn't *make* the extra-soft LSPing pads and I did fine back then too. But I don't have problematic/stupid-soft paint either.

I *do* hear that the LC gold LSPing pad is really good though, still intend to try it out some day. Eh, I never did really like those black LC pads, still have a few of 'em just sitting around unused.
 
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