Looking for a good price on 4500K HIDs...

Jngrbrdman

Jngrbrdman

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Anyone know where I can get the best price on a 4500K 9006 HID conversion kit? I've seen them in the $400 price range fairly often. I could have sworn I've seen them for less than 400 in the past. I'm sure if I wanted to get some purple 6000K rip offs then I could get them easy. 4500K is the best one for actual effective light being put down on the ground. Those are the ones I want. If anyone gets wind of a good group buy or something, then would you let me know about it? Thanks! :xyxthumbs
 
HIDs4Less has a Stage 1 kit for $499.



http://www.hids4less.com/www/search/index.asp?page=search.asp



I doubt that link will work (I think the site must be flash), anyway I pulled up a page for your integra...



and the Stage 1 low beams only are $499, this includes the complete housings, bulbs, conversion kits and anything else needed. I have read very good reviews about the company too.



Brightheadlights.com has Philips 4200k for $498.



http://www.brightheadlights-hid.com/hid-9006.htm



Good luck finding them for under $500. You may want to look on ebay.



I have been wanting to get a kit for my 850 for a while now, if you do purchace one... let me know how it turns out.



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That sucks that they cost so much... Oh well. I guess I'll have to get to work so I can rake up the bones. www.liteswap.com has them for a little under $500 but not much. I guess I'll just have to keep my eyes open. Thanks for the help! :xyxthumbs I'll let you know if I find anything good.
 
Hope I wont meet you on the road jngr, you will blind the hell out of people with your stock integra projector housings. Conversion kits are bad ideas imo :down .
 
Aurora40 said:
http://www.misterjung.com/



5200K, $379 shipped
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LOL I was just coming back to this thread to post that link myself. LOL I had it in my favorites at work and totally forgot about it.



AlBoston: I doubt it. Its possible to do if you know how. I've got 9005 Silverstars in my low beams right now and nobody has flashed me since I put them there. Going on 2 years in March. I've got friends with HIDs in their Integras and they aren't blinding.
 
I have seen tons of arguments over whether or not HID's in non stock HID housings work - safely.



My buddy has HIDs in his teg, and I tell you - he spent a long time doing it right, making sure the cut offs were proper. There is NO blinding from them. THey are fine. No worse than my friends new A4.



Just do it right, and it can look good - nothing wrong with HID's in a teg.
 
AlBoston said:
Hope I wont meet you on the road jngr, you will blind the hell out of people with your stock integra projector housings. Conversion kits are bad ideas imo :down .
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Why do you feel they are a bad idea? Is it just the blinding factor?



I have projector beam headlamps, so brighter bulbs really shouldn't cause any problems for oncoming traffic. I also have a load-leveling rear suspension, so when I have stuff in the trunk the beam won't raise. I am interested in an HID kit because of their superior light output and beam pattern. The OEM HID's I've seen have about the same brightness as the center of my lights, but it is that bright throughout the pattern. I find that very appealing/compelling. They also use less wattage and are cooler (I think?) than the stock halogen bulbs, so there is no danger of frying anything.



Is there some other thing to consider? Do the aftermarket bulbs not tend to produce good beam patterns (I've noticed the beam pattern can depend greatly on the bulb from having crappy Wagners and nice Sylvanias in the same housing).



Also, it's been my impression that adding those aftermarket kits consists of attaching the stock connector to the ballast, the ballast to the bulb, and finding a place to mount the ballast. But it doesn't require any cutting or splicing of wires. Is this the case? I wouldn't do it if I had to cut/run wires or couldn't easily reverse it.



Sorry if this is a hi-jacking, Jngr...
 
I think Al was referring to the self leveling aspect of factory installed xenon headlamp systems. For example, when you first turn on the car, the headlamps do a little dance (they point up and down, side to side) to ensure they are properly leveled each time they are used.
 
JustinTRW said:
I think Al was referring to the self leveling aspect of factory installed xenon headlamp systems. For example, when you first turn on the car, the headlamps do a little dance (they point up and down, side to side) to ensure they are properly leveled each time they are used.
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I don't believe this is a requirement on cars that have self-leveling suspensions. And I believe there are cars with OEM HID's with self-leveling suspensions that don't have self-leveling HIDs. When I was checking out the Cadillac STS's HID's (because the car is similar to mine), I don't think they self-level. But the car does, just like mine.



My car also has lows and highs that stay on together, so there is no darkness gap when switching the highs off, and the highs are the DRL's, not the lows, so no problems from that either. As far as I can tell, my car is a great candidate for the conversion to HIDs. I think I might try the 9005 trick Jngr suggested first.



I would like to hear from AlBoston as to what he feels are the bad aspects of aftermarket HID's.



Also, I'd love to hear feedback from anyone that actually upgraded their headlamps. Do they have good beam pattern? Uniform brightness? Thanks!



Jngr: I think I got that misterjung link from you in the first place! If you do buy HID's, make sure to let us know how they do!
 
I think the point ali was making, is that factory hids are designed for hids, whereas retrofits are are putting a xenon bulb in a housing designed for a halogen bulb. Often time, the cutoff wont be quite right and can cause problems.

I have some pics of the ML bi-xenon projectors beside a ML with xenons retrofitted in the projectors and the cutoff is not the same. I will try to dig up the pics to show.
 
Here are a few pics: (sorry they are so big, but I just grabbed the urls to them)



This is a factory bi-xenon ML setup:

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Here's another ML with the retrofitted halogens and the 6000K conversion kit. Note the vast difference in foreground light pattern and the hot spots within the pattern.

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You can see the difference here as well, with the retrofitted HIDs into halogens on the left, and my Bi-Xenons on the right. The former is a lot more "streaky" and it is missing a rather large "chunk" of light on the upper left hand corner of the screen.

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(credit for the text and pics goes to Drew of benzworld)
 
Would the fact that my low beams are projector lenses help out at all? I put the 9005 conversion in my wife's car and then I took them right back out again when I pulled out of my driveway and instantly got flashed by oncoming traffic. Never had that problem in the teg. Could the projector lenses be helping out a bit here?
 
Jngrbrdman said:
Would the fact that my low beams are projector lenses help out at all? I put the 9005 conversion in my wife's car and then I took them right back out again when I pulled out of my driveway and instantly got flashed by oncoming traffic. Never had that problem in the teg. Could the projector lenses be helping out a bit here?
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WIth projectors, you usually get a good sharp cutoff, but those pics I posted, where of ML's that both had projectors. You can see that the projector designed for the hids, did make the beam different.
 
bjwebster said:
Here are a few pics: (sorry they are so big, but I just grabbed the urls to them)



This is a factory bi-xenon ML setup:

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Here's another ML with the retrofitted halogens and the 6000K conversion kit. Note the vast difference in foreground light pattern and the hot spots within the pattern.

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You can see the difference here as well, with the retrofitted HIDs into halogens on the left, and my Bi-Xenons on the right. The former is a lot more "streaky" and it is missing a rather large "chunk" of light on the upper left hand corner of the screen.

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(credit for the text and pics goes to Drew of benzworld)
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That's really interesting. How does the HID upgrade in the ML compare to the original halogens? Does it seem to have a fuller beam or a brighter center? I mean, with halogens, there are areas that get left out a bit too. In that last picture, the center or the lights on the upgrade seem to stretch as far as the OEMs, if not a tad further. I don't like that color of the upgrades, though.
 
The different color is because they are 6000K HIDs. Higher numbers don't mean better performance where HIDs are concerned. 4300K is the best you can get. Go either direction from that and you are getting either not enough light or lots more light but its a screwball color and not helping at all. Give me bright white with a hint of blue any day of the week. :xyxthumbs
 
Jngrbrdman said:
The different color is because they are 6000K HIDs. Higher numbers don't mean better performance where HIDs are concerned. 4300K is the best you can get. Go either direction from that and you are getting either not enough light or lots more light but its a screwball color and not helping at all. Give me bright white with a hint of blue any day of the week. :xyxthumbs
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Yeah, I know that's why they look like that. I just meant that I don't see the "coolness" factor of the blue/purple color. I also would go for the whiter, brighter color.
 
Aurora40 said:
Yeah, I know that's why they look like that. I just meant that I don't see the "coolness" factor of the blue/purple color. I also would go for the whiter, brighter color.
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I figured you would know that. I was saying that for the benefit for anyone who surfed in and didn't know about it. :xyxthumbs I used to think the higher was better too. It took awhile before I got adjusted to thinking about 4300 being better than 8000. lol
 
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