Klasse Vs. Zaino
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consider realistically what kind of time you're willing to put into detailing your car and what kind of waxing ethic do you currently carry, they both take some babying but in sorta different ways/steps
are you willing to wait for cure times or want to get something that cures right away like with the aid of ZFX.
are you a weekly waxer or do you tend to slack off?
are you willing to work put up with wax that my be a little tedious to remove?
how often would you wash and QD?
you also mentioned you want swirl hiding capabilites, IEO (in everyone's opinion
) paint prep is the key and you should get rid of most of that before you choose either. It may even seem like you will spend the lengthiest time on that step. Then at that point swirl hiding may not be a factor.
both have been proven to work for everyone
each has a characteristic shine that some tend to prefer over others on different cars/finishes
check out the members forums or others that have used either product on your car
good luck :up
are you willing to wait for cure times or want to get something that cures right away like with the aid of ZFX.
are you a weekly waxer or do you tend to slack off?
are you willing to work put up with wax that my be a little tedious to remove?
how often would you wash and QD?
you also mentioned you want swirl hiding capabilites, IEO (in everyone's opinion
) paint prep is the key and you should get rid of most of that before you choose either. It may even seem like you will spend the lengthiest time on that step. Then at that point swirl hiding may not be a factor.both have been proven to work for everyone
each has a characteristic shine that some tend to prefer over others on different cars/finishes
check out the members forums or others that have used either product on your car
good luck :up
Jngrbrdman
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Don't forget to add Blackfire to the equation. It has just as many pros and cons as Klasse and Zaino. There are a ton of good threads in the Product Review Archive. I just moved a bunch down there. Check out that forum and see if there are any that answer your question. The Klasse vs Zaino debate is older than Autopia.
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Well at the risk of being flamed I will tell you that you will pretty much the same thing from everyone. The both have great durability and gloss which means it will last about 4-6 months before needing to be reapplied (only for klasse SG that is, If u follow CMA instructions for AIO it will not last. You must let AIO cure like SG in order for protection, thank YoSteve for that awesome tip that works! 
). AIO and SG leave the surface pretty darn slick if it is prepped properly with clay and so forth, many say zaino is slicker... but many of these people say every other product sucks but zaino(basically, not completely true). Within the near future I plan on trying zaino because I want to see if all these wonderful attributes of zaino are really true. We will see!
edit: looks like my own spice was added to the equation anyway, oh well!
). AIO and SG leave the surface pretty darn slick if it is prepped properly with clay and so forth, many say zaino is slicker... but many of these people say every other product sucks but zaino(basically, not completely true). Within the near future I plan on trying zaino because I want to see if all these wonderful attributes of zaino are really true. We will see!edit: looks like my own spice was added to the equation anyway, oh well!
imported_Intermezzo
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One thing you should consider is the color of your paint. Zaino really excels on light metallic colors. Klasse looks great on darker colors and non-metallic colors.
AlBoston, tell me more! Do you mean letting AIO dry for 20-30 mins like SG will provide a better protective coat than buffing immediately?
AlBoston, tell me more! Do you mean letting AIO dry for 20-30 mins like SG will provide a better protective coat than buffing immediately?
Jngrbrdman
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I've tried letting AIO sit for awhile and I really don't notice the difference. I put a coat of SG right over the the AIO anyway so I really don't think I could tell the difference if there is one . The durability issue is pretty moot with Klasse. Anyone that cares enough for their car to put Klasse on is going to put more than one layer of SG more than once a year on their car anyway. If they really care about their car then they are going to strip it all down once a year and start over so the durrability should hold up just fine. Just my thoughts. Anyone that puts a product on their car and then waits for it to wear off before putting more on isn't a true Autopian anyway IMHO.
imported_memnuts
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I do not plan to strip my Zaino off once a year. Is this just a Klasse regimen? Nowhere is it stated that Zaino needs to ever be removed for proper autopian style car care. Granted my Zaino'd car is never exposed to the elements but if it were I still would just maintain the finish by layering and spot repair any marring and clay when necessary ( Zaino is not removed by claying).
The reason I use a sealant is to protect the clearcoat from direct environmental exposures and detailing abuses ( Waxing, SMR'ing, washing, QD'ing, etc.).
The reason I use a sealant is to protect the clearcoat from direct environmental exposures and detailing abuses ( Waxing, SMR'ing, washing, QD'ing, etc.).
imported_Intermezzo
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<blockquote class='ipsBlockquote' >
<em class='bbc'>Originally posted by Jngrbrdman [/i]
<strong class='bbc'>I've tried letting AIO sit for awhile and I really don't notice the difference. I put a coat of SG right over the the AIO anyway so I really don't think I could tell the difference if there is one . The durability issue is pretty moot with Klasse. Anyone that cares enough for their car to put Klasse on is going to put more than one layer of SG more than once a year on their car anyway. If they really care about their car then they are going to strip it all down once a year and start over so the durrability should hold up just fine. Just my thoughts. Anyone that puts a product on their car and then waits for it to wear off before putting more on isn't a true Autopian anyway IMHO. [/b]</blockquote>
What about glaze or paint cleanser + carnauba wax every three months?
<em class='bbc'>Originally posted by Jngrbrdman [/i]
<strong class='bbc'>I've tried letting AIO sit for awhile and I really don't notice the difference. I put a coat of SG right over the the AIO anyway so I really don't think I could tell the difference if there is one . The durability issue is pretty moot with Klasse. Anyone that cares enough for their car to put Klasse on is going to put more than one layer of SG more than once a year on their car anyway. If they really care about their car then they are going to strip it all down once a year and start over so the durrability should hold up just fine. Just my thoughts. Anyone that puts a product on their car and then waits for it to wear off before putting more on isn't a true Autopian anyway IMHO. [/b]</blockquote>
What about glaze or paint cleanser + carnauba wax every three months?
Jngrbrdman
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<em class='bbc'>Originally posted by blkZ28Conv [/i]
<strong class='bbc'>I do not plan to strip my Zaino off once a year. Is this just a Klasse regimen? Nowhere is it stated that Zaino needs to ever be removed for proper autopian style car care. Granted my Zaino'd car is never exposed to the elements but if it were I still would just maintain the finish by layering and spot repair any marring and clay when necessary ( Zaino is not removed by claying).
The reason I use a sealant is to protect the clearcoat from direct environmental exposures and detailing abuses ( Waxing, SMR'ing, washing, QD'ing, etc.). [/b]</blockquote>
I don't think it is just a Klasse thing. Klasse isn't removed by clay either. The only reason I would suggest stripping it down once a year is just so the product wears evenly. I don't think it really matters too much if you do or if you don't. I just think it is a healthy thing for your car to get the royal treatment once a year if you have the time. One good day spent stripping old sealants, polishing out any swirls that have occured, and then reapplying sealant shouldn't hurt a thing. That isn't printed on the Klasse bottle or anything. I just feel that it is a good thing to do to your car once in awhile. That is just "The Gospel of Detailing According to Anthony." Take it as you will. If your car doesn't see the elements that often, and you don't feel that its necessary to strip and reapply because you apply enough througout the year and keep up on it enough, then I think that is great. :xyxthumbs
<em class='bbc'>Originally posted by blkZ28Conv [/i]
<strong class='bbc'>I do not plan to strip my Zaino off once a year. Is this just a Klasse regimen? Nowhere is it stated that Zaino needs to ever be removed for proper autopian style car care. Granted my Zaino'd car is never exposed to the elements but if it were I still would just maintain the finish by layering and spot repair any marring and clay when necessary ( Zaino is not removed by claying).
The reason I use a sealant is to protect the clearcoat from direct environmental exposures and detailing abuses ( Waxing, SMR'ing, washing, QD'ing, etc.). [/b]</blockquote>
I don't think it is just a Klasse thing. Klasse isn't removed by clay either. The only reason I would suggest stripping it down once a year is just so the product wears evenly. I don't think it really matters too much if you do or if you don't. I just think it is a healthy thing for your car to get the royal treatment once a year if you have the time. One good day spent stripping old sealants, polishing out any swirls that have occured, and then reapplying sealant shouldn't hurt a thing. That isn't printed on the Klasse bottle or anything. I just feel that it is a good thing to do to your car once in awhile. That is just "The Gospel of Detailing According to Anthony." Take it as you will. If your car doesn't see the elements that often, and you don't feel that its necessary to strip and reapply because you apply enough througout the year and keep up on it enough, then I think that is great. :xyxthumbs
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<em class='bbc'>Originally posted by Intermezzo [/i]
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What about glaze or paint cleanser + carnauba wax every three months? [/b]</blockquote>
If I was going the plan old carnuba route I would rewax ever 1.5 months or more. I noticed when I used to apply just #26 on the ML it wore off pretty quickly. I tried to apply it every month. With a black car in the LA heat and air pollution, I would wax and glaze monthly.
<em class='bbc'>Originally posted by Intermezzo [/i]
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What about glaze or paint cleanser + carnauba wax every three months? [/b]</blockquote>
If I was going the plan old carnuba route I would rewax ever 1.5 months or more. I noticed when I used to apply just #26 on the ML it wore off pretty quickly. I tried to apply it every month. With a black car in the LA heat and air pollution, I would wax and glaze monthly.
imported_killerjg
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Ok, no beating around the bushes from me. For your two questions: Swirls can't say, this hasn't been something I look too closely for (besides my car doesn't have any, Puter don't post your little glasses again ). Ease of removal Z.
I will say you won't be disappointed with either.
). Ease of removal Z.I will say you won't be disappointed with either.
vettefan67
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<em class='bbc'>Originally posted by Likecars [/i]
<strong class='bbc'>(besides my car doesn't have any, Puter don't post your little glasses again [/b]</blockquote>hehehe 
Zaino for sure is much, much easier to remove than Klasse.
This is a tough one but I think Klasse fills swirls better IMO.
<em class='bbc'>Originally posted by Likecars [/i]
<strong class='bbc'>(besides my car doesn't have any, Puter don't post your little glasses again
[/b]</blockquote>hehehe Zaino for sure is much, much easier to remove than Klasse.
This is a tough one but I think Klasse fills swirls better IMO.
William420
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<em class='bbc'>Originally posted by puterbum [/i]
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This is a tough one but I think Klasse fills swirls better IMO. [/b]</blockquote>
Is this from your own experience? I thought you car is pretty much swirl-free? I'm just wondering that's all.
<em class='bbc'>Originally posted by puterbum [/i]
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This is a tough one but I think Klasse fills swirls better IMO. [/b]</blockquote>
Is this from your own experience? I thought you car is pretty much swirl-free? I'm just wondering that's all.
vettefan67
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<blockquote class='ipsBlockquote' >
<em class='bbc'>Originally posted by William420 [/i]
<strong class='bbc'>Is this from your own experience? I thought you car is pretty much swirl-free? I'm just wondering that's all. [/b]</blockquote>Yeah, from experience. It's hard to explain and I haven't used either sealant enough to be sure but it seems that Zaino's high reflectivity amplifies the appearance of any swirling, even though it is filling the swirling/imperfections.
Klasse on the other hand wasn't as glossy so the imperfections weren't as easy to spot.
Am I changing my answer as I think about this? I'm not sure now which fills better but things seemed to be less visible in Klasse than Zaino. I can't be sure though as I haven't done a head to head test . . . yet.
<em class='bbc'>Originally posted by William420 [/i]
<strong class='bbc'>Is this from your own experience? I thought you car is pretty much swirl-free? I'm just wondering that's all.
[/b]</blockquote>Yeah, from experience. It's hard to explain and I haven't used either sealant enough to be sure but it seems that Zaino's high reflectivity amplifies the appearance of any swirling, even though it is filling the swirling/imperfections.Klasse on the other hand wasn't as glossy so the imperfections weren't as easy to spot.
Am I changing my answer as I think about this? I'm not sure now which fills better but things seemed to be less visible in Klasse than Zaino. I can't be sure though as I haven't done a head to head test . . . yet
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