Klasse haze

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imported_Tony

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confusion..... When we use products and they start to dry and leave a residue we call this a haze. When we use the term Klasse haze I believe we are not referring to all the residue just the residue that is difficult to remove. In other words there is aways residue( especially more if you apply a very heavy application) when using Klasse but normally it is easy to remove. oh no gotta go



Well since I have never had the haze problem I had forgotten the description. The point is : " we all need to be on the same page".



As you know there are two common problems concerning Klasse.

#1 difficult to remove SG.

#2 Klasse Haze.



I have never had either problem but I often recommend Klasse so the issuse is important to me.



BTW thanks guys for the response
 
Actually, the klasse haze is something totally different. It's when the SG produces a thin oily film a few days after it's been buffed. The oil can look like swirls depending on what type of towel you are using. The direction of the swirls change depending on the direction of the last towel swipe.



Unbuffed product, or difficult to buff product is NOT a haze. It is simply unbuffed product. I don't know where this started. It causes confusion amongst the members when we are talking about the klasse haze. Some are referring to one thing, others something else.



We all need to get on the same page when it comes to this.



From now on, unbuffed product is just that, unbuffed product.



Also, when we give advice to a memeber on how long they should let a product HAZE before buffing, let's stop ourselves and replace the word HAZE with DRY.



Example:



"John Doe, I reccommend that you wait 20 minutes for your SG to DRY before buffing it off of your vehicle."



I think we need to add the terms HAZE and DRY to our acronym list, eventhough they technically aren't acronyms.



The haze is the byproduct of perfectly buffed SG that for some reason is not reacting properly.



Rightlane, this isn't a flame or shot directed at you. I'm actually glad you brought it up. We need to clarify what this term means.
 
Bill,



I agree their needs to be some clairification. To me it would be pretty clear if someone said "allow to dry to a haze..." and "the wax left a hazy finish."



Someone write a proper term/definition and I will update the list.



db
 
BillNorth said:
Actually, the klasse haze is something totally different. It's when the SG produces a thin oily film a few days after it's been buffed. The oil can look like swirls depending on what type of towel you are using. The direction of the swirls change depending on the direction of the last towel swipe.
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This is also what I understand :up , although I remember reading an old post regarding a second type of "foggy" haze, as if one had breathed on the paint. I think this is rare though.



I'm with you on the terms issue Bill, I think we need an Autopia Glossary. For instance, the stuff called "polish". We should have it standardized that this is generally understood to be an abrasive, unless you're reading about a Meguiar's product (which is messed up, IMO). And the term "curing" as well.
 
4DSC said:
This is also what I understand :up , although I remember reading an old post regarding a second type of "foggy" haze, as if one had breathed on the paint. I think this is rare though.
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Actually Brian, the foggy haze and oily haze are one in the same. The fog is composed of an oily substance. And you're right, it has the look as if someone just breathed on the paint.



I have encountered this phenomenon. Last fall about a week after I applied klasse.



I think it was directly related to my application and removal methods. I have modified those this time around and have yet to see the haze (touch wood).



David,



You make a good point in your example sentences. We'll definately have to give it a proper definition.
 
I've never had or seen the SG haze so often referred to, maybe it is because all my cars are light colors. SG is very easy to remove just use a slightly damp microfibre towel.
 
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