Kamikaze Over Coat vs Gyeon CanCoat?

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quebert

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There`s not a lot of info out there on Over Coat, but the little I did find praised it. Todd from Esoteric Car Care raved to me about it, and I know he`s one of the most respected and knowledgeable detailers out there. But I`m wondering about how these 2 measure up? I just ordered the 250ml Over Coat today, and based off his write up it should last me 20-25 cars. I`m always looking for something I can use on uncoated cars that gives shine & good beading. And can be applied/removed with just a MF, I do waterless/rinseless since I`m in So Cal so no hose or pressure washer for me. Coating`s are too expensive for the bulk of the clients I currently have. Over Coat isn`t pricey at all if it lasts as long as they claim and I can get 20+ cars out of a $70 bottle. The last bit of stuff I read about CanCoat was about the sprayer getting clogged up and people having to get the can replaced. But these posts were pretty old and there`s apparently a V3 of the product out, which I can`t find any info on if that`s been fixed? From the posts I saw it seems the clogging was a pretty serious issue.

Anyone here used both and want to chime in on which they like better and why?

Also the directions say for dry application to spray it on a MF towel and wipe on panel. Wouldn`t it be better to use a block with the suede cloths like you use for a coating? Since you use so little I`d think a MF would just soak up and waste product.
 
First off they are completely different products. Can coat is a coating. It is wipe on wipe off. You only use a small amount on the towels and it doesn`t soak the towel. You also need to keep the car out of moisture for a period of time so it can cure. As far as the clogging issue that has been resolved with it now being non aerosol. Overcoat is basically a maintenance product that adds gloss and extends protection. Just a couple of sprays on the towel then wipe on the small sections and you will be fine. I can tell you it does what Todd says it does! We use both products on a regular basis and love them both!we are certified in both products.
 
Great info on the difference between the two. I have been meaning to pick up Can Coat to try.
Not to hijack the thread. A bit off topic but in the Kamikaze realm.
Mike what are your thoughts on Infinity Wax?
 
Kamikaze Overcoat is magical stuff. I use it as Mike says above about once every month or so after washing our WG Uber Ceramic coated black cars, kinda like a coating refresh/booster. It`s amazing stuff, makes water run away and hide! Leaves a nice fresh shine that lasts a good long time and helps shed dirt as well as water. Picked up the 250ml bottle last spring, not even half - empty after using it on 8-10 cars.

Pic of car that was last washed end of august and Overcoated. Daily driven...Rained on, sat outside overnite many times, rained on in morning, sat in sun same afternoon.
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Infinity wax is excellent, can be used over coatings without problems if you still like waxing. It is expensive but like all Kamakaze products it`s well worth it. You need to make sure that you mix it for at least a minute and use very little. It must cure for at least 1 and a half hours.
 
Mike lambert said:
Infinity wax is excellent, can be used over coatings without problems if you still like waxing. It is expensive but like all Kamakaze products it`s well worth it. You need to make sure that you mix it for at least a minute and use very little. It must cure for at least 1 and a half hours.
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I`m doing all I can to resist adding this to my latest Miyabi/ISM/Overcoat adventure; not sure I can (resist)....struggling.

I`ve read here and there that Infinity is good for longevity/durability but not exceptional. Is it more of an appearance item?

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Mike Lambert, I understand what you`re saying. But beyond one being a coating and the other a maintenance product. What`s really the difference? Todd told me in an email Over Coat`s great as a stand alone product, I asked him specifically about using it on cars without any wax or coatings. Both claim 6 months of protection and both are known for their water beading & gloss effects. Over Coat`s much cheaper when I factored in 8-10 cars from 1 bottle where you get about 4 from CanCoat. I guess I need to try them both and see with my own eyes, but I really couldn`t figure out a good reason to not go with Over Coat. I`m excited to try it, but maybe even more excited to try the red Esoteric towels I ordered. I have a ummmm, towel addiction or something lol.

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I`ve recently used both these products plus their artificial clearcoat and infinity wax, all worked as advertised, amazing gloss and hydrphobic action. Very easy to use.
 
BudgetPlan1 said:
You should try the Gyeon towels. A folded up BaldWipe towel is an excellent Overcoat application tool.
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Definitely on my to buy list, I`d order a couple right now but I have some Polish Angel Sunshine & Organic Red towels I haven`t tried yet.


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When you buy 10 $15 dollar polish removal towels sight unseen, you might have a problem :(

That`s the yellow ones thought, the red ones were only $10 each, what a deal. lol.

I do wanna try the Baldwipe & PolishWipe towels in the near future.
 
blucpe said:
I`ve recently used both these products plus their artificial clearcoat and infinity wax, all worked as advertised, amazing gloss and hydrphobic action. Very easy to use.
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What are your thoughts on the Infinity wax? Durable or just an appearance item?

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Mike,
How about wetcoat with cure on top ???

I also have cancoat just want to use an easy coating for upcoming winter months...

Thanks

KB
 
I actually don`t use wet coat and only use cure before turning loose a Gyeon coated car. Everything else is either overcoat or Kenotek. I have Modesta on mine so that has m1
 
BudgetPlan1 said:
What are your thoughts on the Infinity wax? Durable or just an appearance item?

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I used it but to be honest, apperance wise did`nt add much. As far as durability it`s hard for me to tell because my car is`nt a daily driver.
 
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