Kamado Joe cooking - Texas Style Brisket - Low and Slow - 2nd attempt

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Not car related but I am sure many of you out there are BBQ aficionado`s. I am truly not, but I am learning as I would like to be able to master the craft of smoking. Something about our ancestors and cooking with fire, hunting for their food, cooking it over the flame, beating their chests when they achieved success. I`d like to do that! Minus the hunting and living in caves bit. If I achieve success with this there will definitely be some chest beating going down.

A few months ago I picked up a Big Joe from Costco, they had a killer deal and I have wanted one for the last few years so I pulled the trigger. I have smoked a few briskets with not great results (mostly dry or over doing it) so this time I set out to really try to master my Kamado Joe (which i know takes time).

I am having a bunch of guys over from the school I train at and its a tradition that whoever hosts does a Brisket. Last time I hosted I tried my hand at it - I got good reviews on taste but bad reviews on the meat doneness (dry and overcooked). I also used a flat cut - 6 lbs that time which I think I let go too long on the cook oh yah I also did the turbo method which I think undid me. So this time I went with the low and slow method.

Yesterday I set out to Mitch`s Meats. Here in Roswell GA he`s a well known landmark for all things Meat and Seafood. It was my first time and I did not snap any pics but next time I will but hes got super quality meats and seafood. Mostly Wagyu and High Prime Black Angus. All organic and free range. The brisket I grabbed was a 13lbs packer cut of high prime angus. He even gave me a discount for my first time in. Woo cause man it was not cheap.

I have been reading a lot of books on BBQing recently and my two favorite are Franklin Barbecue and The Komado Smoker and Grill cookbook. Plus of course all the youtube videos. Anyway I hope one day to visit Franklin Barbecue and eat there. My life may be complete.

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For prep:

I took the rub from the Kamado cookbook. So for the rub I modified the NMT beef rub recipe below a bit from the Komado smoker and grill cookbook.

Modified by adding:

1tsp Smoked Ancho Chilli powder
1tsp Chipotle powder
Added 1tsp more garlic and onion

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Prepped the brisket last night with the rub: (Yup thats an empty bottle of Mckees 37 Extreme Foam in the corner of the pic - I did not add that to the brisket). Brisket went into the fridge over night to let it marinade.

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For the Mop I did the following:

1/2 cup apple cider vinegar
1/2 cup hi 5 Terrapin IPA
1/4 olive oil
2 tbsp paprika
1 tsp pepper
1 tsp salt

I ended up having to put the mop in a spray bottle (chemical guys spray bottle - gotta use what you got) because I could not find my mop. lol.
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Starting the cook:

This morning I woke up at 4:00AM to get the Joe set up. For me 4:00AM is a time reserved for really old people (sorry) and people up to no good. So it was tough, I hit snooze a few times but reluctantly dragged myself out of bed around 4:20AM and let the dogs out with me to give me company while I prepped in the quiet and darkness of the morning.

So where I really struggle with the Joe is the heating aspect especially for smoking. Sometimes its impatience but today I really focused on letting it come up to heat slowly without messing with the vents. I was trying to shoot for 225 degrees which I hit but then it slowly kept rising NOOOOOO and then dropped and then rose NOOOOOO. I was playing with the temp running in and out my therm alarm kept going off which I had set to 250 degrees! I just wanna go back to bed Argh! I still have to master this part which is of course super important. Finally I got it to settle around 235 degrees constant which I was going to live with and went back to bed.

By the time I got the grill set up and up to temp it was about 5:30AM and then I waited for the smoke to get a bit more clear before adding the brisket so it was put on around 6:00AM.

Oh yah and for my wood I used Cherry Wood. I really like the subtle fruitiness it adds to the meat and seems to work well with the rub.

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I will say there is a big discrepancy between the thermometer on the Joe and my new grill thermo. Right now I am hovering at 251 degrees grill temp but the Joe therm shows around 205 degrees. Whoa thats a big margin of discrepancy. Bottom vent is only open 1/8 inch and top vent is closed and the smoke ring is just slightly open.

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On last check the brisket is looking good. I usually mop every 2 hours or so and temps of the meat internally are rising nice and steady so im not concerned about the 250 degree temp its sitting at right now on the grill at this point. It does seem to also drop and rise when I open so I am sure it will go back down as well and I closed the top vent a bit more.

This was after about 5 hours smoking.
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Sorry for the long, boring post! I find smoking with the Joe fascinating and rewarding when I can get it right or close to it.

Anyone else on here have the bbq bug? Anyone else use a Kamado style cooker? Any tips or recommendations are always welcome!

Will keep this updated with how it turns out. Hopefully much better than my last attempt.

If you got this far! Thanks for reading!
 

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Very nice! I`ve always wanted a kamado BBQ -but- they cost a fortune! Wowzer. For now my Webber kettle serves me just fine :)
 
Looks delicious. The thought has crossed my mind on getting a grill like that, but I just haven`t been able to justify the $$$. It`s fairly rare I have the time required for that style of cooking, but it does interest me. A delicious piece of meat off the grill is one of life`s great pleasures

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I know the cost deterred me for many years! But the last few years i was saving and my wife was also secretly saving yo get me one got a birthday gift.

This year we redid the back yard and just happened to be at costco and they had it on sale and she surprised me by saying she had saved up for one. Definitely a great gift.

Once you get it set up and at temp you rarely have to tend to it. I think I`m just so used to tinkering and checking that I probably do more harm but really it`s meant for minimal work once going.

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So where I really struggle with the Joe is the heating aspect especially for smoking.

Congrats on the Kamado! I got mine several years ago and it can be very addicting. It does take some discipline to slowly bring the kamado up to heat for a low and slow cook. I used to overshoot all the time in the beginning. With practice you`ll get the hang of it.

Can`t find many of my pics but here is one of a Thanksgiving Turkey I smoked ( with apple wood ) and also some atomic turds.
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And, don`t forget to stock up on quality lump when it goes on sale! ( I got a little carried away once when there was a killer sale )
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Hope you have fun with your cooks!
 

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Congrats on the Kamado! I got mine several years ago and it can be very addicting. It does take some discipline to slowly bring the kamado up to heat for a low and slow cook. I used to overshoot all the time in the beginning. With practice you`ll get the hang of it.

Can`t find many of my pics but here is one of a Thanksgiving Turkey I smoked ( with apple wood ) and also some atomic turds.
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And, don`t forget to stock up on quality lump when it goes on sale! ( I got a little carried away once when there was a killer sale )
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Hope you have fun with your cooks!

Smoked turkey looks awesome! i may have to try that sometime too.

Those atomic turds looks good! I like anything wrapped in bacon lol Ill have to look those up.

Lol taht is a lot of lump coal!

So far I have only use the Komado Joe specific lump coal and got 4 bags when I first bought it but I just finished my last for this cook so I wil definitely be needing to load up soon.

How is the Royal Oak?
 
The pics are making me hungry! I had one of the Big Green Egg cookers a long time ago and loved it. Now I`m stuck with my Webber Kettle grill, not anywhere near the quality (or price) of the Big Green Egg. Keep posting, I always love pics of good BBQ although I prefer pork BBQ.
 
And, if you want to combine two obsessions - detailing and kamado cooking......... as a joke I showed someone how to detail a kamado lol.. used APC, KAIO and forget what I used on the rough black metal.


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PS - hopefully, you do know your grates will never look like that again? you`ll get them clean but never factory silver looking :D
 

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The pics are making me hungry! I had one of the Big Green Egg cookers a long time ago and loved it. Now I`m stuck with my Webber Kettle grill, not anywhere near the quality (or price) of the Big Green Egg. Keep posting, I always love pics of good BBQ although I prefer pork BBQ.

Will do! I also love bbq pork butt as well but everytime I go to a bbq joint I always judge based on the brisket.

And, if you want to combine two obsessions - detailing and kamado cooking......... as a joke I showed someone how to detail a kamado lol.. used APC, KAIO and forget what I used on the rough black metal.


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PS - hopefully, you do know your grates will never look like that again? you`ll get them clean but never factory silver looking :D

I like your wood shelves. Nicely dialed in. Mine came with the black composite.

I was thinking about ceramic coating my Joe with Cquartz DLUX to keep it "dialed in" since I think its good over 800 degrees. So it may hold up.
 
Im not familiar with Mitch`s, Ill have to check it out as Im not far from roswell.

As a Chef, I will warn you. BBQ is an artform, and brisket separates the men from the boys, so to speak. Incredibly difficult to get perfect, which is why some of these guys have devoted their lives to it. Its a similar mindset to sushi chefs. Have fun, but dont get discouraged if you have some not come out to expectations.
 
A good smoked salt can make a rub. We found a really good one at some little country store. Also I like to use the spicey paprika, reg. paprika has no flavor to me.

A fried of ours got a pellet grill and it makes smoking meat idiot proof. We had some of the best ribs a few weeks ago that ive had in a long time.
 
A good smoked salt can make a rub. We found a really good one at some little country store. Also I like to use the spicey paprika, reg. paprika has no flavor to me.

A fried of ours got a pellet grill and it makes smoking meat idiot proof. We had some of the best ribs a few weeks ago that ive had in a long time.

I use smoked paprika - usually like to get the spice from chili`s. We are spicy eaters being of East Indian descent and all ;)
 
Im not familiar with Mitch`s, Ill have to check it out as Im not far from roswell.

As a Chef, I will warn you. BBQ is an artform, and brisket separates the men from the boys, so to speak. Incredibly difficult to get perfect, which is why some of these guys have devoted their lives to it. Its a similar mindset to sushi chefs. Have fun, but dont get discouraged if you have some not come out to expectations.

Nah I ill never be discouraged at all. Its really fun for me and I enjoy the whole process too when I have the time for it. I went to Culinary school for a year myself but focus was on French and Italian. I never finished I ended up going back to finish IT. I have lots of respect for Chefs and I have many friends back home who are in the industry.

What restaurant are you at?
 
You post pictures of all that great BBQ and then tell us all about it, then you expect everyone to go back to the garage and go back to work!!!!! Somehow it just ain`t fair!!!!! But THANKS anyway
Jay
 
Hmmmm.....me thinks you need to bring that on over to get it certified by a Texan if you`re going to call it Texas Brisket :P
 
What a surprise Georgia boys and Texans talking BBQ. Too bad we don`t have a few members from Kansas City or Memphis. Lol.
 
Hmmmm.....me thinks you need to bring that on over to get it certified by a Texan if you`re going to call it Texas Brisket :P

I always hate when I get someone that just went to Texas and wants BBQ for an event, including brisket. So frustrating, because I`m not a BBQ specialist and I`ve been in the Southeast my entire career. People don`t understand that these Texas BBQ guys spend decades perfecting brisket. And that`s ALL they do is BBQ. I`ll gladly make it for you, and mine ain`t bad, but you`re setting yourself up for disappointment.
 
Hmmmm.....me thinks you need to bring that on over to get it certified by a Texan if you`re going to call it Texas Brisket :P
Hahaha I`d definitely send you some for your review but guaranteed I`m not winning any competitions anytime soon. It`s was enough that it was edible and my buddies said it was much better than the last one!

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