I'm taking the plunge - Zaino is on the way!

mgm2003

mgm2003

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After doing some research, talking to 'Z' product users, and constantly hearing the hype I've decided to try some 'Z' for myself. I'd like to trim down my product collection, and in the sealer department I have several: WG, UPP, FMJ, EX, EX-P, #218, #2180, and probably 4 or 5 others that I've forgotten about.

Here's what I ordered:
Z-PC x 2
ZFX x 2
Z2Pro x 2
Z5 x 2
Z6 x 2
Z8 x 2


and for kicks, I decided to try some Z10 since it's been making its rounds on the board.

The poor soul that I kept on the phone for an hour or so last night is getting a few surprise 'Z' items as a 'Thank You'. You know who you are, and I appreciate the help and advice.

I'm going to polish out our black Tahoe with Menzerna (and I swore that I'd wait until spring!).

Any suggestions for a plan of attack on the 'Z' products listed above?

Thanks!
 
Uyyy, you are a product whore...Truly, no doubt about it.


-Apply the sealants thin. Wait 15 mins in warm temps, closer to 30 in cold.
-Be sparing with the Z6/Z8...They go a long way.
-ZFX is pricey so be careful with it. However, it works.
-Apply Z10 and walk away. No streaking, even on black
 
I'm still a little mixed up on what to do with ZFX, Z2Pro and Z5.


Since this is the first time I'm using Z, I need to mix ZFX with Z2 Pro and/or Z5, right?

Then every 'n' layers, I need to apply another coat with the ZFX mix for bonding, right?

I'll assume that Z2Pro and Z5 are essentially both sealers with different looks. I'm planning to try it on black and silver paint.

My wife might not see me for days!
 
You will get 4oz mixing bottles with your purchase of ZFX.

Fill the bottles half way, add 4 drops of ZFX, this is enough for 3 coats.

I would do a Z6 wipedown after FPII, just to make sure it is clean.

With Z8, i really have no urge to add more layers of Z2p, i will polish out the paint twice a year, seal with Z, and forget about it.

Best part about the Z system for me, if i dont want to do much of anything, it is still looking good. Alot of others need weekly maint. to keep the looks.
 
You won't be sorry... they are awesome products!

You'll get a deep, long-lasting shine, that will get lots of thumbs up! :yes:
 
haha, ya they are 2oz bottles, now arnt they :)

Its been 5 months since ive used them, so cut me some slack hahahhahaa :)
 
mgm2003 said:
My wife might not see me for days!
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I believe that the wife will get over that part.

What I am wondering is what are you gonna do after the detail? With Zaino all you will be doing is sitting back looking at the nice finish. Hope that you have other cars to work on. I know that is the only good thing about the daughter getting a car. I have something to detail. She never gets Zaino.
 
mgm2003 said:
Here's what I ordered:
Z-PC x 2
ZFX x 2
Z2Pro x 2
Z5 x 2
Z6 x 2
Z8 x 2
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Boy, when you plunge you plunge deep. :) That seems like enough product to do 30 to 50 vehicles. If you only need to use it every 6 months, this could take a long time to use. Any concerns about shelf life? Or maybe you use that much product. I don't think I will live long enough to use all of that.:)

Just a few questions if you or someone else could clarify a few things.

Z-PC ? Is this the new swirl removal product?

Z2Pro ? The new sealant, right?
Z5 Also a sealant, right?
Why two sealants? I thought the newer Z2Pro was the Zaino of choice now.

Z6 The Gloss Enhancer/QD
Z8 The Spray Seal Gloss Enhancer
Wouldn't the Z8 make the Z6 unnecessary?

Charles
 
I've read this thread and all this Z talk has my head spinning...seems to me that there are repeated steps of layering....I know this is why I never really took to using Zaino...the results are impressive from what I have seen.
 
wow that stuff is going to last you a long time and if it was me i would only order one zfx because it dries out on me often. Its not cheap either. There is really no need to order so much of each. only thing i would double up on is the zpc and the z6 and maybe the z8. Chris
 
CharlesW said:
Boy, when you plunge you plunge deep. :) That seems like enough product to do 30 to 50 vehicles. If you only need to use it every 6 months, this could take a long time to use. Any concerns about shelf life? Or maybe you use that much product. I don't think I will live long enough to use all of that.:)

Just a few questions if you or someone else could clarify a few things.

Z-PC ? Is this the new swirl removal product?

Z2Pro ? The new sealant, right?
Z5 Also a sealant, right?
Why two sealants? I thought the newer Z2Pro was the Zaino of choice now.

Z6 The Gloss Enhancer/QD
Z8 The Spray Seal Gloss Enhancer
Wouldn't the Z8 make the Z6 unnecessary?

Charles
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Yes Charles the Z2Pro is a new sealant. Or relatively so. It has been out for over a year.
Z-5 is a sealant also. It can work as a stand alone sealant. Many use this as the product that will deepen the look. It also has added benefits that it can fill very minor marring, giving a great look, which will enhance the Z2Pro because Z2Pro is so clear.
Z6 is a Detail spray with some cleaning properties. It is great to use with the Z system to help clean off the dust from surface prep and get the proper bonding thru the many coats that one like's to have to get the rich, wet and shiny surface that The Z-line provides.
Z8 is the fairly new( I believe it was August of this year) product that helps provide continued protection for the Z line. It is a spray sealant. It enhances shine as well as protection. This is not a detail spray to be used as a quick clean up like Z6 is.

Zpc Fusion is the newest product of Zaino line. Yes, it is a swirl remover. Again, I believe that it is a product developed to get the Zaino line to provide a complete car car system. To help make the bonding of the products complete.

Have used all the products on the wife's car. ZPC Fusion was all that I needed to get rid of the minor marring that was developing from all my Z6 wipe downs while I was home last year. it was applied by PC and a propel orange pad. Unless the car is driven in the rain(then I wash in Z7), I only use a Z6 wipedown then Z8 wipedown once a week to maintain the brilliant look that is on the 300 Touring. Others wait for monthly coats of Z8 but I could never wait that long.
 
impulsebrklyn said:
wow that stuff is going to last you a long time and if it was me i would only order one zfx because it dries out on me often. Its not cheap either. There is really no need to order so much of each. only thing i would double up on is the zpc and the z6 and maybe the z8. Chris
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I may be wrong but it is my guess that he has plans for some of the product to go out to other people. At least that is what I would do if I ordered that much product

Beemer boy said.
"I've read this thread and all this Z talk has my head spinning...seems to me that there are repeated steps of layering....I know this is why I never really took to using Zaino...the results are impressive from what I have seen"

Yes that is true. It does seem to be a lot of steps. Prep is the key to getting optimun results. As with any product. The diference is that the results continue from month to month. I took six hours prepping and layering a carnuaba about a month ago on the hood of my truck for a test.. Although it is not the same kind of product, each week that I look at the hood I can see the protection diminishing thru time. I have never seen the product diminish in a month with Zaino using the same prep.
 
cwcad: You have it pretty much down. The only points I could add would be technical and about the chemical make-up. I'll spare people as Beemerboy's head will be soon spinning like a rotary :).
 
GSRstilez said:
cwcad: You have it pretty much down. The only points I could add would be technical and about the chemical make-up. I'll spare people as Beemerboy's head will be soon spinning like a rotary :).
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Take my words for it that spinning has nothing to do with Zaino
 
I plan to apply the Z system to my wife’s black Tahoe and my silver STS over the holidays (if I have enough time).

My neighbour wants to try them on his rides too. I’ll put Z on weekend details too. I’ll be surprised if much is left in 4-5 months, but we’ll see.

Over the past several years, I’ve read so many positive reviews of the Z products. Z seems to also generate a lot of debate too. Something that stirs up THAT much noise is worth taking a look at. I’m taking the plunge and ‘sipping the Kool-aid’.

The main thing that has kept me from Z is the cost, and the fact that you’re somewhat bound to the Z system once you start using it.

Z2pro @ 8oz. for $15 bucks. Wow, that’s a pretty arrogant price (if you ask me).

If the Z products don’t dazzle me and clearly distinguish themselves from the others, this will be my one and only order.

Trust me, I’ll be an objective voice on these products. My neighbor is a pretty harsh critic too. I'm curious to see his reaction.
 
Yeah, Zaino is good stuff, but the pricing is sort of high, and you can only get Zaino at Zaino, unless you know a local distributor. But the pricing is the same with no to little specials. That is another reason I am switching from Zaino to currently Poorboys. You can get some good deals from distributors, and specials from Steve. And the nice thing is you can buy in bulk... like Spray & Wipe.
 
cattman said:
Mike (1 Clean WS6) used the same combo (Menzerna then Zaino) on my car. While it's 99.99% Mike, and .01% product, the combo of products on black is great.
Couple before and after pics:

http://detailcity.com/forums/showthread.php?p=155035#post155035
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Yea, I saw that post and commented that it's the best looking black paint that I've seen around here in a while. That's some awesome work and I agree -the man working the polisher had a lot to do with the end results
 
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