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Blackmirror

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I'm tired of applying sealants by hand. I have a big car too. feels like it takes forever to do the whole car. What buffer do you guys recommend I get? I'm thinking of the pOrter Cable type.
 
I've got the 7424 and I like it. It works well for my purposes anyway. Get the pad kit from CMA. Its pretty complete. You can find the polisher for about a hundred bucks if you shop around and that pad kit is something like 50. Its still a good deal. :)
 
I just got my 7424 from Amazon.com ($102 shipped by Walmart pricematch)...



It came with a 5" counterweight, so I ordered a 6" H&L backing plate and 6" counterweight from Coastaltools for $27 shipped (omg NOT cheap), and Megs 3-pack + #26 for $50 shipped (omg I feel raped)...



All in all, I hope the joy of detailing my car for the first time by machine will make it all worth it :)
 
To be very honest I am not happy at all with my PC! It is just too expensive for something that does nothing more than apply wax. To be completely honest it performs no better than the 6" random orbit polisher I bought from Walmart for $20.00 8 months ago.:nixweiss
 
Thunderingbird said:
To be very honest I am not happy at all with my PC! It is just too expensive for something that does nothing more than apply wax. To be completely honest it performs no better than the 6" random orbit polisher I bought from Walmart for $20.00 8 months ago.:nixweiss
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Interested in selling your PC?? Let me know. [email protected] I can always find a use for another one.
 
rightlane said:
The PC does not work well with the white pad it comes with. Well, the PC works well but the white pad sucks.
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I agree the white pad is a waste of time. The Megs. pads and the CMA pads did make a difference, However the PC DID NOT remove tiny scratch's. The scratch's can only be seen at a certain angle or under my shop lights. These were not BIG scratch's, you could not feel them with your finger nail. I used every product imaginable and tried all the pads nothing would touch them. That is until the Dewalt rotary came out of the box! Less than 5 minutes with the Dewalt and its all just a memory now. The PC may be good for someone that is scared of a rotary, but it cannot compete with the rotary. I just cannot stand to spend 6 hours trying to remove scratch's[and still not removing them!] When all it takes is 5 minutes with a rotary.:)
 
So what's the story behind the term “dual action�?

I've searched high and low but could not find out what that term means.



What's the difference between a dual action random orbit polisher, and a plain 'ol random orbit polisher? Does the DA act like a buffer, and prevent the random orbit process?



Thanks!

Colin
 
speaking of orbitals, I have one of those 9" WAXMASTER blue orbitals from Walmart a long time ago. Haven't used it in a while. Are those orbitals any good?
 
Blackmirror said:
speaking of orbitals, I have one of those 9" WAXMASTER blue orbitals from Walmart a long time ago. Haven't used it in a while. Are those orbitals any good?
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How many amps is it rated at?



Most will probably say "no" citing lack of power, but I think it depends. Some 10" Wen orbitals are geared down and have 2.6 amps on them, which sounds pretty good to me! Also it depends how fast it spins, though a larger pad compensates for slow turning.



Really inexpensive orbitals tend to have a bad combination of large pad size (10"+), low-powered motors (about 0.5 amps), and slow speed (around 3000 opm). This means that once it hits the paint, the the big pad slows it down quite a bit, reducing its effectiveness. This is probably why non-PC orbitals get a bad reputation.



I'm becoming more interested in some of the high speed Wen units in the hopes that since the speed is so high in the first place, once loaded the speed drop won't make it useless.... But I'm still unsure. Maybe I should risk posting a thread on it. :p
 
Propaganda13 said:
I still think this is the best deal for a kit out there

http://www.coastaltool.com/cgi-bin/...24.htm?L+coastest+xqfm3478ff203220+1029963108
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I agree. I just purchased mine from Coastal. The Porter Cable 7336 and 7424 are the same unit. The difference is, the 7336 comes with a Sanding Pad and the 7424 comes with a Polishing Pad.



While you can buy 7336 at Lowes, it is cheaper to purchase the 7424 from Coastal. Cost is $119.00 and they include the 6" Inch Counter Weight and the Hook and Loop Backing Pad at that Price.



As for the polisher itself, I have used it on my hood in a small section that had some pretty bad scratches. Used in conjunction with Griots Machine Polish it did a great job and I was really impressed. While I am sure a High Speed Buffer could give better results, one has to know a great deal more about how to use it.
 
GSR13 said:




I agree. I just purchased mine from Coastal. The Porter Cable 7336 and 7424 are the same unit. The difference is, the 7336 comes with a Sanding Pad and the 7424 comes with a Polishing Pad.
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Also, the 7424 has the (wrong) 5" counterweight, while the 7336 has the right 6" counterweight. I'm not 100% sure where I read it, but I think it said it uses the 5" because of the included pad's light weight (even though it's a 6" pad). I've seen this in person too - 5" weight with the "6"" 7424.



People now recommend getting the 7336 or 7336sp since most swap it to a velcro backing pad anyway..... Unless you get the Coastal Tool kit of course :)
 
4DSC said:
Also, the 7424 has the (wrong) 5" counterweight, while the 7336 has the right 6" counterweight. I'm not 100% sure where I read it, but I think it said it uses the 5" because of the included pad's light weight (even though it's a 6" pad). I've seen this in person too - 5" weight with the "6"" 7424.



People now recommend getting the 7336 or 7336sp since most swap it to a velcro backing pad anyway..... Unless you get the Coastal Tool kit of course :)
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Yeah, like I said in my post above, when you buy the PC from CoastalTool, they include the 6" CounterWeight and Hook and Loop Backing Pad. It is included for the price of $119.00 and requires no additional order. They now include those two items with all PC's they ship.
 
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