I hate that I like a TW product (ICE liquid clay)....

Dan

Dan

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The liquid clay is pretty awesome for removing mild oxidation. I just used it on my beater that was getting almost to the point of being chalky. It removed the mild oxidation, the paint was almost shiney afterwards. Followed it with #66 on the rotary and then some 476 by hand. Two hours to bring the finish back from the dead including wash time. My steps were:



1. Pre-soak using powerwasher with detergernt

2. Rinse using powerwasher

3. Use Liquid Clay. used about 2 oz.

4. #66

5. 476s



Paint looks great with very little time invested. I'm a big fan of #66 too, but usually it really starts gumming up the pads if the paint is bad. The Liquid Ice was able to remove most of the oxidation. At $15.76 including the liquid, clay bar, and detailer spray it's a nice deal... I hate that I like it but, it saves at least 30 minutes.....
 
AGREED! The name is deceiving- it is nothing like a claybar.



I have used it to remove oxidation, though. Just splash some on a foam applicator and rub it around-you can see the nasty grey clearcoat coming off, revealing a nice shine.



It's also good for quickly stripping LSPs before using a real claybar or polishing.



Complaints I have heard are that it leaves a filmy residue behind-if you wash each panel shorty after applying as per the directions, you can avoid this.



TW screwed themselves by misrepresenting this product. It is nothing like a claybar but does have its place in my arsenal-especially since i picked them up for two bucks each when Pep Boys had their sidewalk sale-haven't seen it around since (besides in the package you mention-which is a better way to sell this product-a step before the real claybar).
 
Yep, if you are looking for a clay bar replacement, this isn't it. But for neglected cars, it saves you a considerable amount of polishing time. Its a nice chemical oxidation removal compound.
 
a.k.a. Patrick said:
I had WAY better luck with the Surf City Clay in a bottle.
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Hmm, the Beyond Clay stuff is supposed to be used on a buffer right? With the Ice liquid clay, you do a wash and cleaner/polish in one step, which is why I like it, its a big time saver. If I had to wash, then use another polish, I might as well just spend some more time doing a two stage polish.



I'm also curious about people who haven't had good luck with the stuff, did you put some elbow into it like the directions say? I spend a few minutes on each panel srubbing.
 
I really like the liquid clay, I use it to strip off any previous LSP or ti remove very mild water spots. I have not tried their actual clay product.
 
Agreed. Have used it twice now on really bad finishes. As long as you wash afterwards, the result is just short of amazing. The new addition of an actual clay bar doubles the price, however. Never used the supplied clay bar.
 
I tried it once, it didn't do anything for me. It wouldn't get off even a reasonable amount of oxidation (for a liquid) or even dirt off the red SS paint on my old Saab. I have enough stuff I like that I have no desire to give it another try.
 
I had the liquid clay, tried it and thought it was garbage. I then used it to clean the sink. Much better now.
 
Wow... its hard to believe the results are so polarized. Some people are really happy with it, others absolutely hate it. Has to be more to the story.
 
I think TW did a disservice to try to market this as a replacement for a traditional clay bar. For me, the product works well enough to strip LSP and mild oxidation and contamination (very similiar to Meguiars DC1 in effectiveness). I like the ease of use in a non-autopian style quick detail, exactly what I did for my father's car several weeks ago.

I still think it is overpriced, but have been able to find it a discount store. I do think it has a place in my arsenal, but it doesn't displace a traditional claybar. To me, TW has a very disfunctional product line. I like TW Liquid Clay (with the above caveats). I love TW Express Shine and TW Ice car wash.

I find TW Ice to be short lived and overpriced.

I have not tried the reformulated TW rubbing/polishing compounds.
 
You guys just got to make me buy new products huh? lol I read all these reviews this morning and was slightly interested. Then I went to work and every time I passed by the car cleaning aisle I kept gravitating towards the Ice Clay. Lo and behold I had to buy it lol.



Any tips on how to get the most out of it?
 
Chops said:
Any tips on how to get the most out of it?
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I guess it depends on what you want to do with the stuff. If you just want to strip the LSP then I'd just use it like a regular carwash. I ended up using it on a grout sponge as the new kit (with real claybar) does not come with an applicator. The surface I used it on was mildly oxidized and had not seen any wax or form of LSP since last September or October. The paint was not chalky but it was very dull. This is pretty much what I expect out of a friends or family members finish, which is why I think this fits very well into my routine.



I probably spent about 2 or 3 minutes washing each side panel and maybe double that on the roof sides and hood. While I didn't scrub hard, I put a fair amount of even pressure on the sponge. As soon as I was done with a panel, I rinsed (with a powerwasher FWIW).



Next time I fully intend to do before/after pics, but this time I wasn't expecting much of anything so that camera didn't get a workout.
 
longdx nailed it. It is NOT a substitute for clay or polish. What is is is a great first step for trashed finishes. Use it like a wash, but spend a little more time. It's worth it. It will cut down on the time needed for claying and polishing. Don't know what's in it, but it sure takes off a lot of crud.
 
This has been on my shelf for a while, and I finally gave it a shot a couple of weeks ago before a complete detail. I was very impressed with it. I will definitely use it again.
 
I've always considered it as a pre-wax cleaner to remove dead paint, oxidation, etc. I never bought into the *clay replacement* marketing.



Over here it's frightfully expensive. Mothers/Megs pre-waxes are half the price and perform essentially the same thing. If it's cheap were you are then keep using it.



Other TW products that I really like are the Platinum range of products. Best stuff TW ever made and equal to Mum's/Megs products at the time. Platinum wax and QD are the stand-outs. Both look great.
 
Alfisti said:
I've always considered it as a pre-wax cleaner to remove dead paint, oxidation, etc. I never bought into the *clay replacement* marketing.



Over here it's frightfully expensive. Mothers/Megs pre-waxes are half the price and perform essentially the same thing. If it's cheap were you are then keep using it.
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Yeah, it sounds like TW isn't buying into the clay replacement either since the kit now includes a 100g clay bar and lube for the same price. If you figure the clay bar is worth $10 than the cleaner is a good deal at $6, epecially since it can possibly knock out a step.
 
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