I forgot how Gritty Winter Can Get

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mobiledynamics

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I forgot how Gritty Winter Can Get......until the 1st snowfall...

Paint was clean when I pulled it of the garage today.
All the snow on the road is evaporated but the airborne salt and stuff in the air, just makes the paint go to bleh....

LOL. Just a reminder of what`s really about to come real soon I suppose
 
Yeah, I have to shovel the gritty [stuff] out of the trench drain regularly during the winter. The sheer quantity of it is a constant reminder of how how important it is to flush all such stuff away before starting the "touching" portion of the wash.
 
About this time each year I start thinking about moving way down south, like Florida. But then I like playing in the woods and water...frickin gators and snakes...
 
which leads to the debate on whether one should touch/wash their car, if they can`t pressure wash the gunk off vs. traditional hose pressure.
key step to mitigating instillment of marring

LOL. I was just coiling up my HP PW hose thinking, you won`t be using this till the 1st of the year....and then today, I realized how I was sooooooo wrong.
 
I think we`ve discussed this subject about road de-icers (salt, calcium chloride, magnesium chloride) and their binders (sugar beet juice) and how difficult the film from the binder is to remove with touch-less tunnel car washes. I know that there are some tunnel-wash chemicals developed in Europe specifically for this road traffic film (RTF), BUT they do not meet EPA specs for the USA, so they cannot be imported.
SO, I guess it`s a rinse-less wash via a wash medium that physically touches the paint to remove the road film AFTER going through a touch-less tunnel wash. This might be kind of hard to do when ambient temperatures are 20°F or colder when you do not have a heated garage or service area.

You know it`s Winter in Wisconsin when all the vehicles driven in this weather, regardless of color, turn "Ermine White".
(OK, I need to explain this term "Ermine White" The ermine is a small northern North American weasel whose brown and black fur coat turns pure white in the winter to provide a natural camouflage for their rodent hunting in the winter and protects them from winter predators like hawks, eagles, and owls. It reverts back to its brown and black fur colors in warmer weather).
 
Dan said:
I`ll take [hurricanes] over the gators, plenty of warning before they make their way on land...
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Eh, you can`t just shoot a hurricane.


.. Much better than earthquakes and tornadoes.
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OK, I`ll grant you that :D Even though IMO it`s kinda splitting hairs- Mother Nature is something I don`t want to mess with...She just doesn`t care, no stopping her when she`s [angry] whatever form that anger takes.

Lonnie said:
I think we`ve discussed this subject about road de-icers (salt, calcium chloride, magnesium chloride) and their binders (sugar beet juice) and how difficult the film from the binder is to remove with touch-less tunnel car washes..
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Noting that we seldom use touchless washes unless Accumulatorette is traveling...they must not use the tenacious binders in our area, everything cleans off easily enough without the Special Super Products that some say you need. Reading the stuff on Automotive International`s website you`d think the stuff sticks like glue.

I need to explain this term "Ermine White" ..
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Heh heh, gee, don`t people know such stuff these days? And no, I`m not forgetting City People either ;)
 
Accumulator said:
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Noting that we seldom use touchless washes unless Accumulatorette is traveling...they must not use the tenacious binders in our area, everything cleans off easily enough without the Special Super Products that some say you need. Reading the stuff on Automotive International`s website you`d think the stuff sticks like glue.
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Accumulator:
The binder "stuff" in Northeast Wisconsin (Brown County to be specific) IS like glue. They use a pre-treater/binder liquid they put down IF a light snow or icy mix is going to fall. But the binder, while good for de-icing and keeping expensive calcium chloride on bridges and overpasses, is pure evil (brown) on vehicles.

I think, and this is JUST my opinion and observation, that NOTHING sticks to your vehicles is because your use of Finish-Kare`s FK1000P wax that REALLY is a plastic injection or fiberglass mold release wax "modified" for automotive use. That one statement about your local`s binders not sticking speaks volumes about FK1000P value as a winter wax on winter-driven vehicles.
 
Lonnie- Yeah, since childhood with M16, I always did lean towards LSPs with some Mold Release connection in their background :D And yeah#2 it never ceases to amaze me how that FK1000P will release contamination. Maybe they *do* use those binders in my area, but if so it`s simply not an issue for us.

BUT note that he A8 wears OCW maintained with IUDJ as a Drying Aid, and *it* sheds [everything] almost as well as the Tahoe! Well, emphasis on the "almost" but it`s sure not bad.
 
oh yeah, i`ve forgot how bad it can be during winter but yesterday night i`ve remembered it 100%. if i would have driven an RWD I wouldn`t be here now for sure
 
Yourne- Welcome to Autopia!

Funny you mentioned the RWD...much as I like our 4WD/AWD vehicles in the winter (both always with snowtires, of course), some of the BEST winter drivers I`ve ever had were RWD.
 
Lonnie said:
I think, and this is JUST my opinion and observation, that NOTHING sticks to your vehicles is because your use of Finish-Kare`s FK1000P .. That one statement about your local`s binders not sticking speaks volumes about FK1000P value as a winter wax on winter-driven vehicles.
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I`m thinking it`s the lack of binders more than anything else. I just washed the A8 (LSP = OCW) and everything cleaned off just fine, even the undercarriage. Doesn`t clean up as *easily* as the FK1000P in that it takes a few more passes, but no big deal.
 
Did the 1st winter salt/wash. Always tend to forget the routine until you go through the motions the 1st couple of times.....ya know. All in the name of being safe with that gritty mess ..

HP Rinse
more HP Rinse...:wub:

Felt kinda guilty using this $$ soap as a lubricating agent but Foam Lanced with GG soap

2B with Reset Soap (best soap IMO). Blew dry.

Heh, you know it`s winter when you wash the car and all you smell is salt water.

One Day, on my sh1t list, if I could figure out something nice enclosure wise so it would not be so industrial, is a heated pressure washer. Now that would be the ticket !
 
mobiledynamics said:
Did the 1st winter salt/wash. Always tend to forget the routine until you go through the motions the 1st couple of times....
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Huh, I didn`t seem to be doing anything differently except for not having to deal with any bugs. I might do a *little* more Pre-Rinsing, but generally...winter washes are the same as summer ones. Well, except for the awful mess left on the floor of the washbay (and, uh-oh...going down the drain, hopefully without causing any issues).

Thought about washing the Tahoe yesterday when I put the winter wheels/tires on, but nah...just DI pressure-rinsed it and blew most of the water off. Looks plenty good enough for Real Life during winter.
 
I used my worx hyrdoshot or whatever its called with a 5 gal bucket. Worked really nicely to get the heavy gunk off. Need to pick up some good wheel cleaner to make the wheels a bit easier to do next time. Just glad the salty mess is off, for now.
 
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