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Hey! I'm a newbie here. This is an awesome board!!! Well, I just ordered some Klasse AIO and SG and I'll be taking my Thanksgiving Break and put them on. Any tips before I begin anything?? Thanks!!
 
Try reading the host of this site, www.autopia-carport.com . You may also find the ebook sold there is a valuable reference for newbie detailers. You'll learn a great deal. Also check out the archives, lots to learn there. Search for "newbie help" and you'll get a bunch of threads that may help you.

Good luck!
puterbum
 
Welcome to the Forum. The only thing I would suggest is wash correctly, and prep your paint as best as you can. Paint prep is 90% of the battle.

Between now and next week, read as much as you can in the archives, and in the detailing articles you'll find here and elsewhere.

Dave B. out host and moderator has a super book on detailing, and you can get it on this site. Until then, read, read, and read!

When you have an idea what you want to do, then ask the forum all your questions.

To start with the AIO and the SG, just follow directions included, and that will start you off in good shape. You have a good sized rig to take care of, if you start to feel that doing all this is too imposing, just do it in sections. Once you get it where you want it, it won't be much trouble keeping it there.

Again, welcome aboard, and happy detailing! Enjoy!
 
ExplEddieBauer, I prepped my paint with Mother's Clay and 3M Swirl Mark Remover and Finesse-It II, but my car has some pretty bad swirl marks. You might not need to do that.. If you car is a year or more old, you might want to clay it. Read the archives for more on claying, I promise you'll find more than you ever need to know. :cool:



Have fun! I Just klassed my car and it looks fantastic.

Josiah
 
My advice to you is drink heavily. No, no, no musta accessed the wrong databank there.;) Paint prep is really important. One of the highly regarded products on this site is on sale right now. Pinnacle Paintwork Cleansing Lotion is on sale for $10. Another great product for getting rid of swirl marks is 3M Swirl Mark Remover. Ng Luder has a good review of both of these products in the Product Review forum. HERE is a link.
 
Some obvious replies to your question are to make sure to work the AIO into your paint. In addition, use foam pads to apply the Klasse SG. Allow the product to sit on your car for a minimum of 20 minutes or so. Use VERY THIN LAYERS OR COATS. The thinner the better as this will allow for an easier removal or buffing out of the product. Allow 24 hours of curing time before you apply additional coats. For best results, apply at least 3 coats of the Klasse SG. Laters.
 
Thanks for the response guys!! I have another question. Where can you get clay bars without ordering them from the internet? Do I really have to clay bar my car or can I just wash it then put AIO on?
 
after the car is more than a yr old(as Josiah was pointing too) claying at least once a yr is needed.in my case anyway...but each situation is different. there are people who have to clay their car the day they pick it up from the dealer......if you use that cellophane wrapper(little sandwich bag) test and your car doesnt have any rough spots then i'd say your ok...i didnt have to clay at all until my car was about 16 mths old...then i felt a couple of bumpy spots(not visible) on the rear bumper/drivers side front panel...i used the Claymagic and the Zaino clay....both were bought over the net so...i know ive seen the Mothers clay at Pep boys and Autozones...and strauss auto.....thats a popular brand here...
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did a quik search...

http://autopia-carport.com/forum/showthread.php3?s=&threadid=3533&highlight=clay+bars+in+stores...
or....
you can forget the whole claying thingy and go this route which is honestly what i think i'll do in the future since i really hate claying...so tedious....its called ABC....great review by Brad4rdHay...

http://autopia-carport.com/forum/showthread.php3?s=&threadid=4497&highlight=ABC:up
 
Thanks for all your comments...now a question. All of you say that I should have a 24 hour period between the SG. Do I have to wait 24 hours between the AIO and SG??
 
IMO, it depends on what you want AIO to do for you. If you're using it by itself (which you are not) then apply AIO 2 coats wait 24 hours (or a week or two) then do 2 more and you finish will be awesome. In this sense AIO is used not only for cleansing but for applying the acrylic protection.



For your situation, you will be using SG, so your two work-ins of AIO are for cleansing and the added protection lies in the addition of SG to the AIO. After you let the AIO dry for 20 minutes or longer buff the haze off and just move on to the SG and let the coats of SG cure overnight or again apply on different weekends etc.



Hope this helps - Steve
 
Well...spent about 7 hours washing, claying, AIO'ing, and SG'ing my truck. After claying, the surface is already mirror smooth. It's incredible!!! After the AIO, it's very very smooth and glossy. I put on SG an hour ago and I'll let that cure overnight and wipe off the residue tomorrow morning. I can't wait to see the results!! My $50 well spent!! :cool:
 
Well, here are the results. Tell me what you guys think

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Lookin' good Billy! Great job! On the close up of the front fender, right in the foreground it looks like there is still some SG on the fender or the light is just shining on it funny.

Excellent work on Dad's car too. That's something that I bet he <strong class='bbc'>really[/b] appreciated. :D
 
Thanks for the compliments!! I'm gonna put 2 to 3 coats of SG over Christmas break. Do you guys think it'd be too long?



Short cut, I think it's just the light because when I went downstairs and looked, nothing was there.



I showed dad the car earlier today. His impression was funny after seeing how reflective and smooth it is! :eek:
 
I am a newbie who has never really cared about car care until I bought a new tuxedo black ford this past November. During the couple of snow storms in the mid-atlantic region my daughter, 5, was ?helping me? dig out and was cleaning the cars. Well the plastic ice scraper she was using on the car left marks. So in march I was able to use advice for TID forums and I cleaned the car. I used Klasse AIO, which a neighbor lent me along with his pc random machine. After I applied a top coat of BFWD and the car is looking Sweet. Since march I have been trying to was the car at least once a week. And if that happens to fall on Saturday, I wash, dry and QD with BF spray sealant. Today I just washed and dried the car but now I am starting to notice very fine scratches in the surface. When I bought the black car I knew it would require the extra to keep it looking good. I have been using the 2 bucket method w/grit guards, all micro fibers wash mitts and towel for drying and polishing. My wife just laughs and calls me anal...:)

After reading the forums I find the people here are doing amazing work on neglected vehicles. But what do you do with your daily drives? What do you use and how often??
I?m sure this has been address many time?but every time I read through the posts?.My head starts spinning from all of the info!! :confused:

Thanks

Dave

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Hey Dave... beautiful car!!! I can see why you want to keep it nice.

No doubt, black cars do require much more maintenance that lighter colored vehicles. But they sure look good!!!!!

You're doing the right thing by washing and maintaining every week. The light scratches you are seeing, we call "swirl-marks". They are a result of your wash mitt, sponge, microfiber towels or drying towels rubbing across the surface of the paint.

It's really hard to avoid, especially on a daily driver that collects a lot of daily road dirt. Be sure to use a wash mitt that "releases" the dirt well. Sheepskin or microfiber mitts work well. 2-bucket method with grit guard, as you stated.

For drying, I use a leaf blower first, then dry with a Big Blue Drying towel or Absorber.

Claybar and apply sealant every 3-4 months, then maintain with washes and QD.

And to remove those swirl marks, you'll need to polish (probably once a year... I usually do my DD's in the spring). A Random Orbit polisher, some pads and some Meguiars M105/M205 would be a good investment for you.:w00t:

Hope this helps!:thumbup:
 
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