HID Conversion Kits??

joyriiide1113 said:
Yeah! Who cares about glare! Cops not only stop for the color but also for glare!



The light will always be brighter, But in a bad halogen reflector, it will cause too many hot spots.



"first of all...the amount of misinformation in this thread is staggering to say the least..."



Go do some reading yourself! www.hidplanet.com





I on the other hand have actually read and learned a long time ago. And have also done retros on friends car where the supplies didn't cost more than 700 dollars. Thats using oem projectors from bmw, benz, Acura's, ect along with quality ballast.



He's asking for advise. What he does with his money is his business, but simply swapping bulbs is tacky and tastless to say the least.



"4) YES there will be glare, but do you really care? I've seen factory HID systems that are glare-intensive-as long as you got 3000+lumens hitting the ground and you can see, who really cares?"



you obviously don't but I'm sure the Original Poster does not feel like attracting bad attention.
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actually I've only owned 6 cars with HID systems in my life, 2 of which had aftermarket kits, so no I have ZERO basis for knowing what I'm talking about :rolleyes: :rolleyes:





Newsflash for the challenged.....headlight glare is NOT illegal-show me a statute that proves your basis and I'll personally paypal you $20 If it was, then every single 02-03 Maxima would be outlawed-I owned one...they produce glare!



also, my OEM HID equipped Lexus GS400 produced tons of glare....





now tell me...who's foolish? One who spends $700 on a retrofit and has to deal with leaky housings, ugly looking non-factory housings, resale dropping because of custom mods done or one who spens $200 on a conversion kit that can be yanked out at the time of sale and has no adverse effects later??





also, you make it sound like HID is just a bulb-its NOT!!! the fake HID bulbs are just bulbs but real HID is a ballast, wiring harness, HID capsule (NOT BULB!), and in some cases an ignitor (McCullogh)





also, FYI...I've been on HIDPlanet for years :doh :think2
 
NT2SHBBY said:
actually I've only owned 6 cars with HID systems in my life, 2 of which had aftermarket kits, so no I have ZERO basis for knowing what I'm talking about :rolleyes: :rolleyes:





Newsflash for the challenged.....headlight glare is NOT illegal-show me a statute that proves your basis and I'll personally paypal you $20 If it was, then every single 02-03 Maxima would be outlawed-I owned one...they produce glare!



also, my OEM HID equipped Lexus GS400 produced tons of glare....





now tell me...who's foolish? One who spends $700 on a retrofit and has to deal with leaky housings, ugly looking non-factory housings, resale dropping because of custom mods done or one who spens $200 on a conversion kit that can be yanked out at the time of sale and has no adverse effects later??





also, you make it sound like HID is just a bulb-its NOT!!! the fake HID bulbs are just bulbs but real HID is a ballast, wiring harness, HID capsule (NOT BULB!), and in some cases an ignitor (McCullogh)





also, FYI...I've been on HIDPlanet for years :doh :think2
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its pretty funny how you compare lexus, and older model maximas to this, considering they use HID REFLECTORS, not HALOGEN REFLECTORS, like the one the poster was thinking of using.



If you've been on HIDPLANET for years then you've obviosuly never posted. You in no way are contributing any GOOD help to this thread. Instead making me bicker back and forth. Only reason I keep answering isn't to satisfy your game, but to make sure no one takes you seriously, as the advice you're giving is wrong.



You may think its foolish but its not! You get what you pay for, and thinking a PNP kit is compareable to a real retrofit or OEM Hid setup is far from the truth.





putting them into reflector housing will produce this. in this case one big major hot spot and glare higher than 4 feet. imagine. if thats glare a only 25ft away from the wall, imagine when you're driving 500 feet away from oncomming drivers and Police officers.

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I happen to think the retro done on this ALTIMA looks quite nice and makes for awesome lighting.

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And look how evenly distributed the light output can be when done right.

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NT2SHBBY said:
Newsflash for the challenged.....headlight glare is NOT illegal-show me a statute that proves your basis and I'll personally paypal you $20 If it was, then every single 02-03 Maxima would be outlawed-I owned one...they produce glare!
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If that was the case then people who owned car w/out HID and wanted more light could simply ride with highbeams on right? WRONG!



Glare is illegal! It distorts the vision of drivers in front and oncomin and can cause accidents. You're probably the type of guy who rides with an illegal fart can, illegial hids, white indicators, and 2000watts of bass because its the shiznit.



Whocares right?!? WRONG!



you're a straight up disease. Do not spread your wrong information, as I am not challanged, and the only one who appears to have a hard head and doesn't wanna realise and come to the truth that he spent money for somehting that is annoying and no more useful than halogen lights with highbeams.
 
joyriiide1113 said:
If that was the case then people who owned car w/out HID and wanted more light could simply ride with highbeams on right? WRONG!



Glare is illegal! It distorts the vision of drivers in front and oncomin and can cause accidents.
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UMM NO



joyriiide1113 said:
You're probably the type of guy who rides with an illegal fart can, illegial hids, white indicators, and 2000watts of bass because its the shiznit.
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UMM WRONG YET AGAIN!!

#1) I drive a QX-4 so no fart can, thanks

#2) my HIDs are OEM, thanks :xyxthumbs

#3) and the sound system in my truck (Diamond components/Arc Audio amp/Diamond sub with custom plexi-ported box) cost more alone than any car you've ever owned...



:woohoo: :spot



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Of course. Because you're a baller and Im just some guy with no income driving a pinto!



Glare does blind and obstruct vision. I'm sure everyone ahs driven in front on onto oncommoing drivers with these illegal PNP kits and has been annoyed.



For you to say glare does not blind is ridiculous and shows that you just dont care.



This discussion for me is over as Im sure Ive bit the bone on how much information I could give along with what the readers already know or could leave with.



People will do whatever they wanna do and will always try to justify their wrongs.



Kinda funny how you think its a waste of money and time to do a retofit.



And by the way, my HID's are oem as well, but I have done retro's a couple of times with great success.



Would you simply put a z06 engine into a miata without changing tranny, exhaust, ect?

you proabbly would!
 
Joshua312 said:
"We offer a secure mounting bracket with clamps to ensure that your ballasts will remain in place regardless of the amount of time or weather it endures. " Does this mean anything
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It probably means they send you $.80 metal brackets, nothing special.
 
The bracket they send you is for the ballast. Whats giving the hid bulb their power.



All you really need to do is get a hold of some projectors (Acura TL, Newer Generation maximas, S2000's) and a bracket to hold the projector. Before that though you need to take your headlamp out and simply measure the space you would need for the projector. Buy the right fitting projector. Place it, and tweek it until the cutoff is perfect.



Obviously it needs to be mroe detailed but just do some research and it shouldn't be too much of a hassle.
 
Joshua312 said:
I did some more searching



Here is 6000k in a reflector housing:

http://64.40.159.224/ebay/rf6000k.jpg



and 6000K in projector:

http://64.40.159.224/ebay/pjtr6000k.jpg



The difference is obvious...I just wish I knew how to retro fit so i dont have this problem :nixweiss



"We offer a secure mounting bracket with clamps to ensure that your ballasts will remain in place regardless of the amount of time or weather it endures. " Does this mean anything
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joshua....retrofit is not as simple as it seems....



first you have to open your existing headlights (stick in oven 200 degrees 10min) and then pull apart all gooey



Then you need to dremel up your reflectors so the projectors you bought of some OEM equipped car fit flush and don't look retarded sitting all lopsided on your halogen headlights...Then obviously you'd have to silicone it or hot glue it to the housing so it stays put. Now clean the inside of the housings with a glass cleaner (don't want fingers shown on a nice sunny day)



Obviously by now the glue is dry on the housings so you need to re stick in oven so glue softens. Pull out of oven reassemble light and hold together with vice clamps for a good 30min. then do wiring and reput back in car....ALL THE WHILE HOPING YOUR RE-SEAL DOESN'T DECIDE TO LEAK ON YOU!!!!





you wanna do this?
 
Wow. I took one day off and look at all the replys! In reply to your question, Joyriiid1113, I chose the 8000K kit because it gave me a "frosted" look to the headlights. They say it's a bluish tint, but I really see very little of that. Everything is simply now quite brightly lit at almost any distance, especially reflective surfaces, and I think that's one of the really good things about properly adjusted HID lights. I can see a variety of highway signs, signposts, and markers at a much greater distance than I could with halogens. As it is, last weekend we had a variety of really nasty rainstorms on the highways back to San Diego from Palm Springs, and now having done it with HID's I'm spoiled. Being able to see well at night in the rain took most of the stress out of driving. At less than 200.00 for the kit it's no longer even a question in my mind.

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Sorry I'm late (and bringing this back from the dead).

Grand Prix have some of the worst headlights ever made.

Retrofitting projectors into the GP capsule is very hard because of the small size of the headlight capsule. Not many projectors will be able to fit. Projectors off E36's and Valeo's off A4's work well.

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Here is the full thread.



I agree with everyone else. Stick with 4k-6k. I wanted 4, but couldnt pass up a used pair of 6 for the price.

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In the daylight, 6k looks really purple

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Don't forget to disable your daytime running lights (by unplugging the silver heatsink you see when popping off that panel on the dashboard you get to by opening the drivers side door) and disabling the alarm system headlight flash (look in your manual).



If you want a lower cost option...

SUVLights.com makes a wiring harness that allows the headlights to receive power from the battery (instead of going through the car first, which lowers the power that finally reaches the lights by 2-3volts). Pair that up with some Silverstar, or Pilot (Cyberwhites), or Angeleyes and you'll see a huge difference.
 
NT2SHBBY said:
Also, Scottswax...FYI...Silverstars are NOT brighter than stock sylvania bulbs....it has been proven multiple times on other sites and I had them as well in my Lexus GS400 as high beams...they were disappointing to say the least...





my $.02
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OSRAM Silverstars are significantly brighter than stock and have a much longer and wider beam. The improvement was very obvious. The Osrams do not have a coated bulb that would interfere with light output.



Maybe you should read what I wrote again so you don't make a fool of yourself trying to correct someone based on poor reading comprehension.
 
Scottwax said:
OSRAM Silverstars are significantly brighter than stock and have a much longer and wider beam. The improvement was very obvious. The Osrams do not have a coated bulb that would interfere with light output.
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I purchased SilverStars based on your recommendation from the European company you listed as the source. Great service from the company but I was disappointed with the bulbs. I could tell no difference in output from the stock bulbs in my '01 Pathfinder and they didn't last a year.



Just my experience.
 
At least in PA..and I'd bet in every other state...unless installed by the factory...they are indeed illegal. Plus...I have only ever seen one set of aftermarket HIDs that are hi-low beam. Most are only low beam. State inspection would be an issue there.
 
Scottwax said:
OSRAM Silverstars are significantly brighter than stock and have a much longer and wider beam. The improvement was very obvious. The Osrams do not have a coated bulb that would interfere with light output.



Maybe you should read what I wrote again so you don't make a fool of yourself trying to correct someone based on poor reading comprehension.
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Autoeng said:
I purchased SilverStars based on your recommendation from the European company you listed as the source. Great service from the company but I was disappointed with the bulbs. I could tell no difference in output from the stock bulbs in my '01 Pathfinder and they didn't last a year.
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:lol: I might not know nearly enough about detailing as you do Scott (although my knowledge is quite comprehensive on the subject) but I can tell you, the amount of knowledge I possess when it comes to lighting and computers would fill your whole state of TX twice over and then some



and as an FYI OSRAM=SYLVANIA, (proof is here which makes your Silverstar bulbs that you swear are better than OEM, which like I've said has been proven otherwise....I actually put them back in my Saab a couple weeks ago just to make sure my eyes weren't playing tricks on me, you know from all that pot I smoke :rolleyes:





my conclusion is, OEM (Sylvania) and Silverstars (Osram Sylvania) both suck donkey balls... I ended up getting another HID retrofit kit and I am having more than enough fun blinding oncoming drivers and drivers in front of me (this coupled with my rear foglights makes for a fun night out on the town) :rofl: :nana: :werd:
 
NT2SHBBY said:
:lol: I might not know nearly enough about detailing as you do Scott (although my knowledge is quite comprehensive on the subject) but I can tell you, the amount of knowledge I possess when it comes to lighting and computers would fill your whole state of TX twice over and then some
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:rolleyes: In my Mazda 626, the difference between the Osram Silverstars, the uncoated European bulbs, not the regular coated Silverstars you get at Autozone, vs the stock bulbs and the regular Silverstars was huge. Visibly huge. Even the regular Silverstars were an improvement over whatever bulb Mazda uses.



As good as HIDs? No way. Better than the stock bulbs and regular Silverstars? Definitely.



This is the light output from the Osrams, taken by my awesome ZERO.3 megapixel camera phone.



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Auto Express (UK) did some testing.



http://uk.cars.yahoo.com/17032006/45/bulb-test-h7-50-0.html



http://www.electricalconnection.com/other-lighting/bulb_euro_review.htm



Here is another test, the Phillips Vision Plus came out on top, although in my car, they aren't quite as good as the Osrams.



http://www.zx-12r.org/Motorcycle_info/Information Pages/Auto Express H7 Bulbs Test.htm
 
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