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[RED JEWELL SS]

1st off control yourself. Take a deep breath, everythings going to be alright :chillpill:

Its not uncommon to marr the paint whilst claying. May I ask, what kinda clay were you using?

You say you can still feel trash even after claying? Sounds like more scratching/marring is in order :devil:

Do you have a polisher :toetap05:

1. Maguars
2. yup, I dont think the clay stayed soft enough to pick all the trash up..plus I was treading VERY LIGHTLY !
3. Nope,not yet...there is so many creases and lines on this body style....I will have to have a lot of OJT before that ever happens.

 

[imported_Flash Gordon]

1. Maguars
2. yup, I dont think the clay stayed soft enough to pick all the trash up..plus I was treading VERY LIGHTLY !
3. Nope,not yet...there is so many creases and lines on this body style....I will have to have a lot of OJT before that ever happens.

If you continue to feel trash while your claying then you either need to lean harder or get a more aggressive clay(red, which I don't reccomend if you can help it)

A porter cable would be a good investment for you. You can get the machine and pads for around $200. Its nearly impossible to burn thru with this machine as long as you tape up the obvious parts of the car. You could easily recoup this money this summer by just detailing 1 or 2 cars. Its hard to have a hobby that supports itself. Fortunatelly this one does :money:

If you still don't feel comfortable at this point maybe your close to another member that might help you out. What part of the Country r u in :soldier:

 

[RED JEWELL SS]

If you continue to feel trash while your claying then you either need to lean harder or get a more aggressive clay(red, which I don't reccomend if you can help it)

A porter cable would be a good investment for you. You can get the machine and pads for around $200. Its nearly impossible to burn thru with this machine as long as you tape up the obvious parts of the car. You could easily recoup this money this summer by just detailing 1 or 2 cars. Its hard to have a hobby that supports itself. Fortunatelly this one does :money:

If you still don't feel comfortable at this point maybe your close to another member that might help you out. What part of the Country r u in :soldier:

Ok, I felt trash with a baggie over my finners last night....under the halogen today I can see little teensy weensy specs...
I am hoping that ZAIO AND Z6 together will clean it up, followed by Z5...I dont think claying right now is the answer.

Iam in the St Louis area.

 

[imported_Flash Gordon]

Ok, I felt trash with a baggie over my finners last night....under the halogen today I can see little teensy weensy specs...
I am hoping that ZAIO AND Z6 together will clean this up....I dont think claying right now is the answer.

Iam in the St Louis area.

Sounds like rail dust or overspray. Your not done claying yet :sarge



What color was the clay you used?

What color are the specs and are they on a particular area or all over?

Can you post a picture?


:toetap05:

 

[RED JEWELL SS]

Sounds like rail dust or overspray. Your not done claying yet :sarge



What color was the clay you used?

What color are the specs and are they on a particular area or all over?

Can you post a picture?


:toetap05:

It was maguars white clay..I dont think there seems to be color to the specs.

 

[Jeff U]

Just curious, did you look at the paint with the halogen lights before you tried the clay?

Many new cars come with swirls from the manufacturer or are created by the dealer's final clean up before delivery. So, the light scratches may have been there already.

Not that it makes much difference in what to do but it would probably feel a lot better knowing that you did not add a problem.

 

[RED JEWELL SS]

Just curious, did you look at the paint with the halogen lights before you tried the clay?

Many new cars come with swirls from the manufacturer or are created by the dealer's final clean up before delivery. So, the light scratches may have been there already.

Not that it makes much difference in what to do but it would probably feel a lot better knowing that you did not add a problem.

When I took delivery ,I wouldnt let the dealer wash the car,I looked at the towels and mits on the wash bay and I wouldnt let them touch it..
I guess in any case now its my problem.I just let them low pressure spray it off.

 

[imported_Roadrunner]

Man I got trouble,
well when I clayed the car cold the other day ,I have real fine scratches all the hell over,brand new with 300 miles on it....I kept the clay flooded with spray maguars and used light pressure,but aparently the clay wasnt pliable enough....Chit !
I did the sanwich bag test yesterday and there is trash on the paint...sum I can see under the halogen.....

Ok...

You mentioned you kept "the clay flooded"... did you spray the paint surface constantly? It's the paint you want to keep "flooded." You spray the clay once when you start folding it at the beginning and that's it... the flooded surface of the paint will keep the clay wet from there on out. It stays pliable from constant folding and flattening with your hands.

You also have to keep the folding and re-molding the clay after ever 2'x2' panel... to get a clean surface on the clay, otherwise you'll mar the finish from contaminants picked up by the clay. If you notice anything in the clay, after folding it, it's time to use a new piece of clay. If the clay ever falls on the ground, you have to throw it away and start with new chunk.

When you finish with the clay, the paint surface should be "baby bottom" smooth. If you felt "trash on the paint" after claying, you may be feeling remnants of the clay from not using enough lubricant while claying.
When you clay a paint surface, after fulling covering the panel with lube, you'll feel a slight "pull" or resistance on the first pass or so, the clay will pick up the contaminants in the paint and then the bar will glide over the surface with absolutely no resistance, it should feel totally slick and make no noise.
As far as pressure goes, only enough to keep the clay on the surface... that's all you need.

 

[RED JEWELL SS]

Ok...

You mentioned you kept "the clay flooded"... did you spray the paint surface constantly? It's the paint you want to keep "flooded." You spray the clay once when you start folding it at the beginning and that's it... the flooded surface of the paint will keep the clay wet from there on out. It stays pliable from constant folding and flattening with your hands.

You also have to keep the folding and re-molding the clay after ever 2'x2' panel... to get a clean surface on the clay, otherwise you'll mar the finish from contaminants picked up by the clay. If you notice anything in the clay, after folding it, it's time to use a new piece of clay. If the clay ever falls on the ground, you have to throw it away and start with new chunk.

When you finish with the clay, the paint surface should be "baby bottom" smooth. If you felt "trash on the paint" after claying, you may be feeling remnants of the clay from not using enough lubricant while claying.
When you clay a paint surface, after fulling covering the panel with lube, you'll feel a slight "pull" or resistance on the first pass or so, the clay will pick up the contaminants in the paint and then the bar will glide over the surface with absolutely no resistance, it should feel totally slick and make no noise.
As far as pressure goes, only enough to keep the clay on the surface... that's all you need.

Gary,
yes by flooded I meant constantly keeping the surface saturated with spray wax(maguars).....I think where i made the dreaded mistake,the car was cold,the water on the car was cold and it right away made the clay not very pliable...ikept monitoring the clay and it wasnt picking up trash...
It was forty degrees maybe,the water in the car wash (rinse ) was very cold...i wish I hadnt of clayed that day...now iam paying the price...they are superficial scratches..will I be able to repair the damage by hand applications without buffing remains to be seen.... I need supportive help here....:banghead: