Having some problems with cobwebs on a black 2005 Mustang Saleen

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saleen#41

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It's kind of a long story, but I'm really confused. When I first bought the car, it had no cobwebs, but after the first time I washed it, I noticed that I had created a few small ones. (I think it was the drying procedure I used) Since then, after much reading this board, I have learned much better techniques.

I took it to a local detailer, and he couldn't get the scratches out. He said that it would look worse if he "took it down" any further. But he also said if I kept bringing it back, he would eventually be able to get the scratches out. Well, this didn't make any sense at all to me, and I figured he just wanted to make more $$$$. So I ended up taking it to another detailer a few days ago. After telling me that they could completely remove the scratches, it's worse now. When I came to pick it up, I told them this, and they told me they would work some more on it. I came back the next day, and it did look better, but now it seems like it's looking like it was the first time I saw it when I went to pick it up. So I'm wondering what I'm going to do now. Is it possible that they ground past the clear coat? If this is the case, there isn't anything you can do correct? I think they might have just added some fillers to temporarily cover up the damage.

I'm starting to think that I should have listened to the first guy, but when he said to keep bringing it back, I figured that didn't make sense. I mean he could have done it all at once right? I'm very upset now, as I fear I might have to get it repainted. The good thing is that I will be replacing the hood, and adding a rear wing which will cover up the trunk.

I hate black now. I don't think I'll ever get black again. Sorry I have no pics. If I have to have some, I guess I can try to dig my old one up.

Thanks
Saleen#41
 
worse if he "took it down" any further
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This the the first red flag. On a new car, if you take it down further it will look better (ie: removing the swirls). Further, standard hand wash/dry swirls are usually relatively shallow and easy to correct. I doubt that you would need more than a standard polish, followed by a finishing polish.

If you keep bringing it back, you keep paying him more :). Do it right the first time, IMO.


You don't have to get it painted. Where are you located? You need a detailer who has a clue.
 
Buffing out black vehicles separates the men from the boys. :) What you are asking in this post though is like asking a brain surgeon to remove your tumor without a cat-scan. Without seeing the condition of your vehicle we will be throwing out all kinds of suggestions, all of which may or may not be the panacea for your ailment. Pictures also may not show the problem either spider-webbing, surface marring, and swirls can be illusive in photos. Before you invest in a lot of time and materials, I would suggest you do some shopping around. If the detail shops in your area are scarce, or they lack the skills, quality, or craftsmanship you are seeking, looking for a "Custom paint shop" that specializes in hot-rods or high-end work might be the next option. Most will know exactly what will cure your cars disease, and many will even suggest some do-it-yourself products. Be prepared to pay top dollar for their skills -- in the world of high-end custom/show quality work you will be paying for their experience something there is no substitute for!! :)

hope this helps
 
You would think that after two days they had to have broken through the clear coat. They told me they ended up using wool on it. And the owner ended up working on it all day. I just don't understand how it could look worse.

I'll try to post some pics....that camera is somewhere around here...thanks for the replies so far...

Saleen#41
 
I'm inclined to agree with G35stilez. If the car is new and you only saw some minor cobwebbing after the first wash it shouldn't be anything so drasticly bad that a PC and a light polish couldn't get out. What city/state do you live in? There might be a detailer here who lives near you that could look at it and help you. I'm so sorry that you've gone through all of this. I can hear the frustration in your words. :(
 
I'm in Seattle, and I did just get my PC and some SSR 2.5, SSR 1.0, and Nattys Blue wax. Is it possible that it has gone down past the clear coat? Or does that take many many hours to do? because remember, they did have it for two days. Now when I look at it, when the sun hits it, you can just see the cobwebs bad. Otherwise it looks great. I guess I could just wait for summer to end...it'll probably look great in the rain...:)
 
IMO if they went thru the clear you wouldn't have any shine and the car would look awful.Now what you should do is wash the car then clay it, SSR2.5 with a polishing pad, first spread it on at speed 3 then crank it up to 6 and TAKE YOUR TIME!! better yet go to AG and watch the video. then I would use some PP also with a polishing pad same thing speed 3 then 6,then seal it and last natty's good luck black is a pain to keep looking good....But its worth it :)
 
Ok I might just do that...I have to ask, what is AG? And what is PP? All of these abbreviations can get confusing!!!! Well it's good to know that the clearcoat hasn't been gone through. You know the webs only show up in the direct sunlight. I guess the clearcoat must be pretty tough.

Thanks
Saleen#41
 
AG is autogeek.com and PP is poorboy's pro polish good luck. the videos on how to use a PC on Autogeek are realy good check them out :yay
 
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