has rupes retired the rotary to bodyshops only?

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JMjr

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Seems like their are no more rotary only detailers or rotary users since the rupes.lol. Does anyone still use a rotary to detail?
 
Have you had any issues with different paint systems where you had to use more than 2 steps to achieve results you were looking for?
 
How about a 1 step with the rotary? I just here so many people say how their rotary is worthless after buying a rupes polisher.
 
JMjr said:
Seems like their are no more rotary only detailers or rotary users since the rupes.lol. Does anyone still use a rotary to detail?
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Been using a Rotary since I was 10 years old...
And I can correct all day and night and get awesome clarity without holograms and swirls..
I use it because for me, it is fast and I can get great clarity quickly and efficiently..

All the Boat and Airplane Detailers only use Rotary Power, and can kill any Random Orbital within a few minutes of correcting gelcoat or Imron airplane paint... Next time you see a really beautifully clear Boat or Airplane, know that Rotary Power made that happen - with no swirls or holograms... :)

If you really want to learn how to do this, it just takes practice... Was blessed to learn from my Dad and then later, many, great Painters who knew Rotaries and guess what - we all knew how to use this tool and NOT produce holograms or swirls...

I bought a Flex 3401VRG back when they first came out - which is years before many of you were around here..

I found it effective, but not as quick as my trusty Makita 9227c or later my Flex PE 14-250... I like the smaller size of the Flex Rotary, but I feel it is not as powerful as the Makita, when I exert a lot of pressure on it; it's still a great machine though..

Glad there are newer machines out there that are easier to use for those that need this and allow more users/casual users to get great results and carry on the words - Detailer, Detailing...

I will be happy to keep using what I use and love the additional benefit of getting a great workout carrying, holding in all kinds of positions, and applying counter pressure with a 10Lb tool = great forearms, biceps, and killer grip.. :)

And the finish - always stunningly clear !

Dan F
dansautodetailing.com
 
JMjr said:
How about a 1 step with the rotary? I just here so many people say how their rotary is worthless after buying a rupes polisher.
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I one step all the time with a Rotary....

Like any tool, you have to want to take the time to learn, learn, learn, how to use it.. Hopefully, find someone who is really great with it to help you get better at it...

I am sure as the technology improves, there may be an opportunity someday when all the Manufacturers of Everything Painted, will at least think about finishing with something else besides the Rotary Power they have been using for what - 100 years ? :)
Dan F
 
JMjr said:
Have you had any issues with different paint systems where you had to use more than 2 steps to achieve results you were looking for?
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When using a Rotary?
Some paint is easier to correct than others, some paint is harder than others, some paint will be a little sticky when warmed up, etc., etc.,

Issues after 2 steps ? Better not be any by then... :)
Dan F
 
Appreciate all the great responses and insight. Im willing to put in the time and dedication to learn. I just feel so much more comfortable with a rotary then a da. Just the decision of getting the flex or a dewalt 849x. Im a pretty big guy (6"4 290) weight is not the issue just have hands like baseball mits. Lol
 
JMjr said:
How about a 1 step with the rotary? I just here so many people say how their rotary is worthless after buying a rupes polisher.
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I use a rupes and rotary A LOT and honestly they each have their place.
http://www.autopiaforums.com/forums...ls460-black-fire-src-finishing-challenge.html

Look at that thread... I don't think I could of got those results in 1 step as fast as I did with a rupes. On the other hand I know my shop wouldn't be able to turn the work we do so consistently with out rupes polishers. My team calls me grandpa when I pick up a rotary and I'm only 31... Yet it seems almost daily there is something they can't do with a rupes that I can with a rotary. Both great tools when used correctly. It took me thousands of hours with a rotary to be able to finish down any paint system halo free. At the shop we often fix rotary halo's. But more often these days the newest form of inexperience I see all the time is DA Haze. And IMO DA haze is more annoying to remove than rotary swirls because of the stupid "J" mark effect you get when compounding aggressively with a DA. I honestly think either style machine takes loads of practice to do it right, but out the gate from a never done this stand point a DA is going to be more forgiving.
 
i still love my rotary but i have learned to make adjustments & use the rupes as well. i have more fun polishing paint when i use them together.
 
Even with all the new d/a technology I still would love to learn how to use a rotary properly. I've read that some paints (harder) finish down better with a rotary than any d/a.
 
Each has their place in the Detailers arsenal. It's honestly like comparing a Rally car to a Le Mans prototype, each would destroy each other on its home turf.

I still think you get the best finish through rotor when done properly, I just a fan of hardcore corrections.

This is my standard ritual, heavy defect removal (rotor) - light scratch an swirl/hologram (da) - jewel in gain final polish/gloss (rotor)
 
Jsmooth said:
I use a rupes and rotary A LOT and honestly they each have their place.
http://www.autopiaforums.com/forums...ls460-black-fire-src-finishing-challenge.html

Look at that thread... I don't think I could of got those results in 1 step as fast as I did with a rupes. On the other hand I know my shop wouldn't be able to turn the work we do so consistently with out rupes polishers. My team calls me grandpa when I pick up a rotary and I'm only 31... Yet it seems almost daily there is something they can't do with a rupes that I can with a rotary. Both great tools when used correctly. It took me thousands of hours with a rotary to be able to finish down any paint system halo free. At the shop we often fix rotary halo's. But more often these days the newest form of inexperience I see all the time is DA Haze. And IMO DA haze is more annoying to remove than rotary swirls because of the stupid "J" mark effect you get when compounding aggressively with a DA. I honestly think either style machine takes loads of practice to do it right, but out the gate from a never done this stand point a DA is going to be more forgiving.
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Wow! That looks amazing for a 1 step. Thanks for the link.
 
i still use my rotary to put a nice burnish on my paint for finishing. use the d/a for correcting though unless paint is really jacked up.
 
JMjr said:
Seems like their are no more rotary only detailers or rotary users since the rupes.lol. Does anyone still use a rotary to detail?
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is this for real?

the rotary will always have its place

I like the rupes but its not my most used polisher. and certainly does not replace the rotary
 
Gurge said:
is this for real?

the rotary will always have its place

I like the rupes but its not my most used polisher. and certainly does not replace the rotary
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Just my thoughts, doesn't seem like too many people are using a rotary anymore. I wanted to know if people are still using it primarily for detailing anymore.
 
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