Has Anyone Tried Out Turtle Wax`s New Hybrid Solutions Line?

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Lonnie

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Well, it was a matter of time before Turtle Wax joined the SiO2 revolution with its new Hybrid Solutions line.
Anyone tried out any of the products yet? More a question of curiosity, but it does seem to be reasonably priced.
I do assume some of you may have (or will) receive some of these products for Christmas.
Winter weather is not exactly conducive to detailing for a vast majority of you Autopians, but I am hoping some of our "warm weather" Autopians may have (or will) give us some feedback and opinions.

Check it out at the Autopian store:
https://www.autopia-carcare.com/hybrid-solutions.html
 
I have the TW Hybrid Ceramic Spray Coating, I call it. Bought it to test on my mothers vehicle, however I have been playing with it on a few spots on my vehicle, most significant is the rear bumper, I put it up against FK1000P. Same prep for both sides of rear bumper: one half FK1000P other side TW HSC. FK1000P wins in initial slickness and initial lack of dust accumulation, TW won in initial looks, and TW is currently winning in durability (been about two and a half weeks) by way of water behavior and the fact that I have only washed the vehicle twice since the test started, however there was a long stretch in between the first and this second wash, it is entirely possible that I didn’t quite clean the bumper well enough (goal wasn’t to knock out LSP in pursuit of newly bonded contaminants, but more so get the crud off to eliminate chance of material etching). Both FK1000P and TW HSC applied via one coat of product.

TW HSC is entirely worth the price as it competes against the likes of $20+ products. I am unable to comment regarding the other products as I haven’t had experience with them, yet. Would like to test out the polish, not sure about the spray detailer as there are more economic solutions, Wax as You Dry doesn’t isn’t on my radar either. Looking to see what others have to say.
 
Being in NE Ohio, my detailing is at a halt for a few months. I`ve watch Brian at Apex Detailing review the Hybrid Solutions and I am really looking forward to the Polish & Wax and the Spray Coating. His video on the 3 in 1 Detailer looks VERY promising as well.
 
I`ve got the "ceramic" spray coating (and the earlier product). I used it for the first time yesterday so it`s hard to share much on it. Spray on, wipe down, wipe with a clean dry towel. E-Z enough.

I prepped this metallic white vehicle with Essence and it looked great with just that.

I`ve got the earlier TW ceramic product on a couple other cars and that seems to be holding up quite well.
 
I tried the Hybrid Ceramic 3-in-1 Detailer as a post-wash wipe down spray and it worked fine enough. But I have a dozen bottles of things I could use for the same purpose, I didn`t find anything special about the Turtle Wax product in this case.
 
I`m testing their Ice Seal and Shine on a hood next to BlackFire SIo2. With so little product being used for coverage, I`ve got a multi-year or a decade even between needing more! :wacko:
 
TheMeanGreen said:
I have the TW Hybrid Ceramic Spray Coating,.. I put it up against FK1000P. Same prep for both sides of rear bumper: one half FK1000P other side TW HSC. FK1000P wins in initial slickness and initial lack of dust accumulation, TW won in initial looks, and TW is currently winning in durability (been about two and a half weeks) by way of water behavior and the fact that I have only washed the vehicle twice since the test started, however there was a long stretch in between the first and this second wash...
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(Sorry, can`t resist ;) ) "Only" two washes in *2.5 weeks* and that timeframe including a "long stretch between washes"? Heh heh, you crazy Autopian you ;) For me, a "long stretch between washes" would be, well...maybe months.

Eh, I`m possibly coming across far more critical than I intend; I meant the above in a good-natured way...even with the TW supposedly doing that "darkening" thing that I generally don`t want, that`s still a comparison I find *VERY* interesting, so while I`d always do two coats or more of the FK, I`ll be interested to hear how the durability/dirt-shedding comparison works out over an extended timeframe. If the TW spray is more durable, and much quicker/easier, gee that`d really be something.
 
Yeah, I find minimal dirt shedding ability from the early Turtle Wax product. It`s nothing like a real coating. This trait will be make-or-break for me on my own vehicles. I place a high value on a coating that keeps the car looking clean the majority of the time.
 
I have had it on my own car for a little over one month now. I have yet to wash it. It has been driven in the rain at least 6-8 times over that month. Garaged at home, but sits outside at work. There is a healthy road film on it, but it still beads nicely. No it does not bead like CQuartz, EXO coating but it does bead as nicely or better as their respective spray seals.

I used the TW AIO polish first and then 2 coats of the spray seal with about 24 hours in between. I started to put a 3rd coat on the hood after about waiting 6-8 hours and its application was pretty smeary so I stopped at 2 coats.

I want to see if it can make it through an eastern NC winter with no toppers. Just plan on washing it (most likely Hyperwash) when ever the weather allows for bucket wash.

So far this is a legit product.
 
I`m curious how this new line stacks up against the pretty great Seal n Shine spray.
 
Testing out the Hybrid Solutions AIO, so far it is promising, there are certain areas where is provides enough correction for a haze free finish, other areas it’s a little too aggressive for me. This product goes a very very long way and is quite interesting; it isn’t often that I can finish haze free with a non-diminishing abrasive on my vehicle. Can you guys tell which panel has been polished?


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TheMeanGreen said:
Testing out the Hybrid Solutions AIO, so far it is promising, there are certain areas where is provides enough correction for a haze free finish, other areas it’s a little too aggressive for me. This product goes a very very long way and is quite interesting; it isn’t often that I can finish haze free with a non-diminishing abrasive on my vehicle. Can you guys tell which panel has been polished?
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How’s the wipe off for you with the Polish & Wax? Seems difficult for me to get a clean wipe down without an assist. They note in the instructions to use a water spritz but I’m curious what others think, and if you’re seeing any streaking as a result on black. Reminds me of Dodo Juice Lime Prime in this regard. Other than that the working time is great, resulting finish gloss looks really good after a panel wipe, love the smell, little does go a long way.
 
I agree that the AIO is not an easy wipe off. I never had to use a water spritz though. You have to start your wipe outside of the area and wipe into the polish cutting away small sections as you wipe. Definitely cannot just swipe across the panel.
 
AIO Removal:
Dry MF: troublesome, leaves a lot of residue
Dry and H2O Spritzed MF: better, residue removal becomes easier, follow up with dry final buff
Dampened MF from bucket of water: best approach, initial passes are super easy, follow up with dry MF wipe.

Concerning buffing to a haze free surface, I will be adding the HSC, soon. I can use the HSC to level off any of the AIO, as far as hazing is concerned.

In relation to Carpro Essence, at least in the particular of which I compared them, Essence still creates a much nicer finish for me.
 
Isn`t the damp towel supposed to remove high spots but to also activate the so called shine polymers within the polish? At least that is what it states on the directions of the bottle.
 
Let me rephrase my comment. I didn`t need to use a dampened MF or water spritz to remove it. I did a water spritz wipe down afterwards like I was using a detail spray.
It did clean it up nicely and left no signs of smearing or hazing.

I never really had any issues with high spots. Even some spots that I missed when applying the spray seal wiped off easily the next day.

I still haven`t washed it and it beading nicely right now as it a rainy wash out today. Its not the 110 degree contact angle type of thing but its very good. The beads are also a bit bigger than with a true coating. but I like how the bigger beads roll around more easily.
 
TheMeanGreen said:
AIO Removal:
Dry MF: troublesome, leaves a lot of residue
Dry and H2O Spritzed MF: better, residue removal becomes easier, follow up with dry final buff
Dampened MF from bucket of water: best approach, initial passes are super easy, follow up with dry MF wipe.

Concerning buffing to a haze free surface, I will be adding the HSC, soon. I can use the HSC to level off any of the AIO, as far as hazing is concerned.

In relation to Carpro Essence, at least in the particular of which I compared them, Essence still creates a much nicer finish for me.
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Thanks for the feedback. How has the shelf life been with Essence for you? I have a bottle expired in Oct 2017, consistency looks great (unlike Essence Plus), was going to pull it out to play around some with CQ Lite now that I`m back with all of my gear.

The Guz said:
Isn`t the damp towel supposed to remove high spots but to also activate the so called shine polymers within the polish? At least that is what it states on the directions of the bottle.
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I smiled a bit when I read that on the bottle. I think the confusion I`m seeing is realizing a 24 hour cure is necessary before washing or topping, at the same time the product needs that damp microfiber to activate it in the first place. They do note 24 hour cure prior to "wash" rather than rinse, which makes sense to avoid detergents but generally we think of cure times as avoiding moisture altogether as well. I tried a full dry wipedown and it requires too heavy of a pressure to try and wipe clean for me without the assist.

I`ve got sections running with the Ceramic Spray Coating on top of Polish & Wax after a cure, side by side with the spray coating on top of M210 + Prep-All. On each of those sections I have a 1 coat vs. 2 coat application of the spray coating as well. Didn`t notice any performance changes in the short term through the rinse depending on the base prep or amount of coats used.

Haven`t run testing with the Polish & Wax by itself yet to get a baseline water result and to check the shine polymer activation :), currently running the testing to answer the questions of what can attempt to remove the spray coating without abrasives. PB Strip Down and Optimum Power Clean (undiluted) knocked it down pretty well.
 
Loach said:
Thanks for the feedback. How has the shelf life been with Essence for you? I have a bottle expired in Oct 2017, consistency looks great (unlike Essence Plus), was going to pull it out to play around some with CQ Lite now that I`m back with all of my gear.



I smiled a bit when I read that on the bottle. I think the confusion I`m seeing is realizing a 24 hour cure is necessary before washing or topping, at the same time the product needs that damp microfiber to activate it in the first place. They do note 24 hour cure prior to "wash" rather than rinse, which makes sense to avoid detergents but generally we think of cure times as avoiding moisture altogether as well. I tried a full dry wipedown and it requires too heavy of a pressure to try and wipe clean for me without the assist.

I`ve got sections running with the Ceramic Spray Coating on top of Polish & Wax after a cure, side by side with the spray coating on top of M210 + Prep-All. On each of those sections I have a 1 coat vs. 2 coat application of the spray coating as well. Didn`t notice any performance changes in the short term through the rinse depending on the base prep or amount of coats used.
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For this current application of Essence, I cracked open a new bottle, the 2018 bottle had product left, to be a great annoyancd when trying dispense product frome last bottle, it expired in 2018. My old bottle of Essence+, expired early 2018, decompose sometime in the last few months. I now learned to never buy a 500ml bottle of either, as the potential for waste is high. Play around with that old bottle of Essence and CQ Lite; in all honesty, besides separation from sitting, I have no idea what age will do to Essence....

I too, have tests running on my vehicle. Driver side and rear end were polished with the TW, left to cure 24 hours, and then a mix of panels were topped with TW HSC or DPC Armor (older bottle that I just need to finish up). Drivers side and front end polished with Carpro Essence, allowed to cure and the topped with TW HSC or DPC Armor. The TW HSC was a dream to use on both the AIO and Essence, Armor required a lot of buffing topping either polish.

Lastly Loach, I am very curious to see durability given certain types of panel prep. Any words on wether or not Prep-All leaves solvents behind, solvents that must gas out over time?
 
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