Had our hood replaced/painted two weeks ago, now has massive stone chips?

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The previous hood was on the car for 1.5 years with 37,000 miles on it, with constant beltway/I95 driving, and it had a few chips, but none nearly as bad as this.



The chips look like it went right through to the metal, and it looks as if they will spread and the paint is going to peel off.



The pictures aren't the best quality as the lighting wasn't right, and the chips show up slightly blue on this picture, but they are infact white. The digicam doesn't do a great job of capturing them since the lighting was low.



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So, why would this happen? I can understand some stone chips, it's understandable, but this seems excessive. Especially since Wagonwork Collision charged us over $1600 to replace the hood and blend into the fenders (seems excessive, doesn't it?).



Thanks for any advice....



- Anthony
 
I had a 93 Silverado that had the hood and a fender redone and after that the hood would chip deeper than the original fender and the painter .. whom I know .. told me it was to do with the curring speed of the paint . It made it "harder" than the original thus chipped different. They eventually repainted the 2 pieces. And was ok then.
 
I've also found that a lot of times the repainted portion is thinner than the rest of the paint, causing it to chip easier.



I'd definately take it back.
 
Same thing happened to my friends car. Got it out of paint and a week later we took it to Atlanta. Byt he time we got there it was covered in stone chips. They repainted it for nothing.
 
In my experience, repaints are never quite a durable as the OEM finish. My repainted areas always seem to chip more easily than the factory paint. But if it's bugging you, DO take it back and see what they say.



I dunno about the cost being excessive, with our German toys things like that are never cheap. You just have to hope you're paying for good work.
 
All of my repaints have chipped more easily than factory paint. To make it worse the chips are always bigger.



Tom
 
Looks as if it didn't cure in the oven long enough, or paint didn't adhere right because of bad prep work.
 
I've run into the same problem on my Grand Prix. I'm taking it in this spring since I've found some other defects in the finish. They are soe good people, so I have no doubts that they'll do thier best for me.
 
Accumulator said:
In my experience, repaints are never quite a durable as the OEM finish. My repainted areas always seem to chip more easily than the factory paint. But if it's bugging you, DO take it back and see what they say.



I dunno about the cost being excessive, with our German toys things like that are never cheap. You just have to hope you're paying for good work.
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Agreed.... all resprays I have seen are never as durable as the OEM paint.



The paint is Standox and the body shop that painted it is I-Car Gold Class certified and has a reputation as the best body shop in the MD/DC/VA area.



Other body shops quoted us around $1000 replace the hood and blend the fenders, whereas this place wanted $1600. Their labor rates are higher, so you expect a perfect job.



The most frustrating thing is when you pay a lot of money and then still have problems. People like us need to open an auto body shop. ;)



I will give them a call and see what they say...
 
You mind PMing me with the name of that shop?



I think for really quality work $1600 isn't a lot to ask for a new BMW hood, and painted to match the fenders. The quality of the paintwork looks good, any orange peel, does it match right? I've found and heard that bodywork is especially hard during the winter, and you know how nasty and cold its been here, as long as they make it right I'd say no harm no foul.



Ever thought of something like an xpel clear bra?
 
The paint needs 30 days to cure. Whether it is baked, or not.



Blending the fenders? Not on a 'newish' BMW! Maybe buff the fenders, but...



Some sort of clear bra is a great idea, but you'll still have to wait the 30 days!



Repaints, by definition, cannot be the same as factory.



They are different paints, and different processes.



Jim
 
The problem is that even from the factory no two batches of paint are precisely the same, there are a myriad of different shades and tones it can come out as. Most high dollar shops use a machine that analyzes the paint and then mixes the replacement paint so its the same makeup, I suppose they dont have that equipment.
 
GoodnClean said:
You mind PMing me with the name of that shop?
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I listed the shop name in the first post, it was WagonWork Collision in Alexandria.



I think for really quality work $1600 isn't a lot to ask for a new BMW hood, and painted to match the fenders. The quality of the paintwork looks good, any orange peel, does it match right? I've found and heard that bodywork is especially hard during the winter, and you know how nasty and cold its been here, as long as they make it right I'd say no harm no foul.
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The hood was only $362 dollars. :p



The quality of the paintwork is excellent. The texture of the paint matches perfectly, as does the color. I have no complaints there.



Their labor rate is more than the body shop standard, and they pulled the headlights and the wheels. They also mask off the door jambs and the also charge you $38 to clean your car for delivery... aka paying for swirls.



I have yet to call them..... I'll give them a call tomorrow.



- Anthony
 
jimamary said:
The paint needs 30 days to cure. Whether it is baked, or not.



Blending the fenders? Not on a 'newish' BMW! Maybe buff the fenders, but...



Some sort of clear bra is a great idea, but you'll still have to wait the 30 days!



Repaints, by definition, cannot be the same as factory.



They are different paints, and different processes.



Jim
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You need to blend the adjacent panels whenever you replace a panel on a car. Reason being is for exact color matching and for the metallic layer of the paint (if so equipped).



I didn't want them to blend the fenders, but no body shop would do it without blending the fenders as the paint would be off. A few experts also told me this.



- Anthony
 
Anthony, the cleanup charge is for removal of buffing residue in doorjambs, etc. Should they charge you for cleaning up after themselves? I dunno...



Jim
 
Yeah, the thing that gets me is they charge you for this where no other body shop does that.



I was being sarcastic with the $38 for swirls. ;) (Althought it is true!)
 
Oh duh, I missed the name lol



Most body shops call this "trimming out" and you pay their labor rate per hour for them to do it, so really the $38 up front isn't so bad...
 
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