I have two cars, a 1999 Olds Alero (jade green) and a 2001 Toyota Camry (lunar mist). Much to my surprise, the Olds paint job seems more durable, particularly with regard to stone chips on the hood (Alero has none, camry already has several). Also, rear bumper on camry doesn't quite match rest of car in certain light conditions. Just curious: Anybody else feel that GM's paint is superior to toyota?
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I've heard that Japanese paints can be better because the environmental regulations aren't as strict over there.
But I've also heard that Japanese paints are softer and chip more easily, which is along the lines of what you're experiencing.
I know there have been a ton of complaints about soft paint and ease of chipping on the Lexus IS300.
But I've also heard that Japanese paints are softer and chip more easily, which is along the lines of what you're experiencing.
I know there have been a ton of complaints about soft paint and ease of chipping on the Lexus IS300.
DETAILKING
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My 1996 RED Z-28 was covered in stone chips on the hood at 50K miles. My 1997 one only had about 2-3 chips in the entire hood at 50K miles. I think a lot of it depends on the color of the paint.
Conversely, I agree that japaneese paint is softer, but that actually helps with the chips as it is forgiving to stone impacts. My acura has 15K miles on it and hardly has any chips, and my bimmer which has 8K miles on it has a few already! The japaneese paint hates abrasives too.....I get hazing and visible marring on it no matter how mild of a product I use.
Conversely, I agree that japaneese paint is softer, but that actually helps with the chips as it is forgiving to stone impacts. My acura has 15K miles on it and hardly has any chips, and my bimmer which has 8K miles on it has a few already! The japaneese paint hates abrasives too.....I get hazing and visible marring on it no matter how mild of a product I use.
Hypersion,
The use different grades of clears, not really paints. Some clears marr more easily than others. I remember Ron mentioned that many pro's were pissed because of the clear on the new PT crusier's was somewhat hard to work with.
Anyway, new marr resistant clears are going to be comming out soon. :up
The use different grades of clears, not really paints. Some clears marr more easily than others. I remember Ron mentioned that many pro's were pissed because of the clear on the new PT crusier's was somewhat hard to work with.
Anyway, new marr resistant clears are going to be comming out soon. :up
I don't know if japanese paint is softer but it sure chips more easily than german paints. I don't see many bimmers with paint chips, but my 00' RX300 has a few already with 23K miles. My friend's acura TL chips easily as well, not to mention my 99' beater accord.
DETAILKING your BMW must be cursed or something!!!
He, he, just kidding.
DETAILKING your BMW must be cursed or something!!!
He, he, just kidding.
bmw5541
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I know that a lot of people here don't like to use a glaze. In what situation would you use it?
Never?
On occasion?
Why?
Never?
On occasion?
Why?
imported_Dubbin1
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I vote never. IMO its just not worth the time. If people don't want the paint polished out then they really don't care what it looks like.
imported_Stokdgs
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Barry,
In my experience, a Glaze is only a temporary filler that shines really good.
A great example - Meguiars No. 7 showcar glaze.
We used to use this in the body shop as our last step after buffing out a repaint.
It would last as long as the next rain, or carwash, had very short lifespan outside.
Now, today, Glazes may have improved, I dont know. But as the word implies, its only something that goes lightly over the top of something to make it look prettier, etc..
I never use them either.. unless a Client really wants it...
Dan F
In my experience, a Glaze is only a temporary filler that shines really good.
A great example - Meguiars No. 7 showcar glaze.
We used to use this in the body shop as our last step after buffing out a repaint.
It would last as long as the next rain, or carwash, had very short lifespan outside.
Now, today, Glazes may have improved, I dont know. But as the word implies, its only something that goes lightly over the top of something to make it look prettier, etc..
I never use them either.. unless a Client really wants it...
Dan F
imported_RaskyR1
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I can see a benefit in using it on a garage queen or show car that is in great condition but hasn't actually be polished in a while. Prior to taking it to a show I could definitely see myself using M07 or similar, especially if it's a darker single stage paint or on a car that has very thin paint.
On a newer car that have just been polished it likely will not benefit the paint much if at all.
I do remember applying M07 to this Type-S TL with Nighthawk Black Paint and was pretty impressed at how it made the metallic pop. I think the owner was even more surprised when he picked it up because his car always look black to him before and not it looked blue!
to each their own though...
On a newer car that have just been polished it likely will not benefit the paint much if at all.
I do remember applying M07 to this Type-S TL with Nighthawk Black Paint and was pretty impressed at how it made the metallic pop. I think the owner was even more surprised when he picked it up because his car always look black to him before and not it looked blue!
to each their own though...
imported_Sal329
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I use wet glaze 2.0 and prima amigo. Amigo has cleaners and fills works good on flat dark colors and wet glaze 2.0 works on all colors and metalics adds a nice look. I use them on cars going into shows or a daily drive. I don't like to be aggressive with a daily drive so I like a 1 step, glaze then lsp, unless the customer wants more and understands or willing to learn how to properly maintain the vehicle.