Glaze, Seal, Wax. Too Much?

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Alen003

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Hey guys I had a quick question that i would like to get some opinions on. After washing, claying, and polishing (M105/M205), would it be too much to a glaze (Poorboys), seal (Blackfire Wet Diamond), then top it off with a wax (HD Wax. Do any of you guys do it, or is a waste of time or too much work? Will it look any better doing all three?



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Nah, it's not too much, it's kind of the Autopian way--as the saying goes, a little too much is just enough ;) Will it look any better--probably only to you and not anyone else you know. In this case, people say that BFWD has a pretty carnauba-y look (I haven't used it), so you might not need to top it with a wax.
 
I think you would want to seal, glaze, and then wax. I just used Blackfire for the first time and although it is very slick as everyone says, and does look pretty wet, it lightened my red-burnt orange Jeep to a more orange color. I might put some m26 on top to darken it.
 
Not a big fan of topping a sealant with a nuba, especially BFWD as I love the slick feel it leaves. Also make sure your glaze is compatible with your sealant as some glazes will result in bonding issues for sealants that require a clean surface, thus reducing it's durability.
 
NOT saying I've never done such stuff, but IMO the glaze + multiple LSP thing *is* overkill unless you have a specific reason for thinking it's called for.



I only use glazes/etc. when I have a good reason to, and I almost *always* just pick the right (single) LSP for that particular job and then reapply it as needed.
 
Try BFWD without topping it first.... I topped it on my car but not on my wife's. Quite honestly I prefer the look and feel of BFWD un-topped!
 
Dubbin1 said:
No real need to use a glaze if the polishing is done correctly.
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Well, yeah....*IF* the polishing can be done to that extent. That can be a mighty big "if" when thinking long-term.



But I thought some glazes are supposed to give appearance benefits beyond just filling, stuff like DWG/etc. Not that I have any first-hand experience....
 
Accumulator said:
Well, yeah....*IF* the polishing can be done to that extent. That can be a mighty big "if" when thinking long-term.



But I thought some glazes are supposed to give appearance benefits beyond just filling, stuff like DWG/etc. Not that I have any first-hand experience....
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so if you don't think it's easy to polish right and then apply bfwd, but also don't using a glaze either before bfwd, what process/order do you suggest then?
 
tuffluck said:
so if you don't think it's easy to polish right and then apply bfwd, but also don't using a glaze either before bfwd, what process/order do you suggest then?
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If, for whatever reason you can't/shouldn't do sufficient polishing to get a truly marring-free finish, then I'd consider a glaze that's comptatible with the LSP. The BF GEPC does a little glaze-like stuff, and there's always DWG. Or Autoglym SRP (not sure how it'd work with the BFWD though).



But generally I just don't use sealants unless I can get a basically perfect finish.
 
2x DWG + 3x UPGP every six months with OCW every few weeks. That's my glaze/sealant/wax routine. Fair amount of work every six months, but a breeze otherwise.
 
i like to use M105 with the black pad after the passes with the white one instead of glazing,to me it gives it that extra pop and you're not filling or antything,it's all you.
 
I love the Blackfire. there are times I top it with Poorboy's Black Hole, (on dark cars), then a coat of Fuzion. The results are unbelievable. Overkill or not, my cars get triple takes. Wet, dripping and juicy is what I'm after.
 
Glaze, seal, and wax in my opinion isn't overkill at all and is in the correct order of application.



No matter how hard we try or how much effort and work we put into our passion no surface is perfect. Adding an additional layer of this or that won't hurt anything can can bring allot of personal satisfaction when it's done correctly. When "you" can stand back and say "YEA", that's all that counts.
 
Does Black Hole have cleaners in it? I think it might. So you may want to use it before BFWD>





meticulous said:
I love the Blackfire. there are times I top it with Poorboy's Black Hole, (on dark cars), then a coat of Fuzion. The results are unbelievable. Overkill or not, my cars get triple takes. Wet, dripping and juicy is what I'm after.
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