Glaze on top of 845 or the other way around.

[mborner]

I’m planning on doing some very light correction on my Accord. I’d like to add a glaze to get that “wet” look. Should I put the glaze on top of 845 or should I layer the 845 first. I know a glaze barely lasts, so would 845 on top of a glaze help it last longer?
Also, can you recommend a quality, super wet glaze, or is there a one step wax that would be better than 845? I’ve been using 845 for years because of its amazing, long term protection. Thanks.

 

[Lonnie]

Mborner:
Let me know which way looks better (wetter, glossier) to you:
1) Glaze on top of 845 OR
2) 845 on top of the glaze
I would surmise the glaze on top looks better, especially if the 845 is older.
I suppose I could ask what glaze you are using and why?
I would also surmise that the Collinite 845 over a glaze would remove any of the reflective oils and fillers in the glaze, kind of defeating having a glaze on the paint surface, rather than sealing in those oils and fillers.

If you want a really wet-looking paint on your Accord, consider upgrading to Collinite's 915 Marque D'Elegance paste wax with its higher carnauba wax content.

 

[LT4]

Another opinion. I used to use glaze a lot with single stage paint. Meguiar's #7. Always topped it, usually with carnauba. I don't know the Collinites well enough to comment.

My best/favorite way to apply the #7 is with DA polisher and a no cut pad.

 

[Accumulator]

mborner- Eh, I'm not thrilled with the following response, seems like a lot of nothing. But maybe you'll find something in it useful.

I always considered 845 to be a little on the "bright"/reflective side, even maybe a little "wet for a conventional LSP". If you want something even more along those lines, I'd 1) emphasize the final polishing, then 2) use something that provides the look you want with just one product. It's hard for me to see through your eyes to know just what that might be.

I would not glaze over top of 845. I doubt the glaze would adhere to the 845 and even if it doesn't create a smeary mess, I doubt it'd provide any benefit. If it did, you'd have to reapply the glaze frequently (at every wash).

I can't recall ever using a glaze under 845. I didn't do it because I assumed that the solvents/etc. in 845 would compromise the glaze. IMO it'd depend on the particular glaze in question. I'd use a "dry" one, not something like #7 (e.g., of the Meg's "pure polishes" I always preferred #5).

A bright/reflective/"?wet?" LSP like FK1000P/BWM1 might do it. I use that over top of glaze-like products and it works OK as long as I do the FK application gently. BUT..the "glaze-like product" I used isn't on the market any more and I don't know what to recommend.

BUT#2, I'd be astonished if nobody here has ever applied 845 over top of a glaze. It might work just fine. How's *that* for a "OTOH"?

 

[TroyScherer]

The normal process would be glaze under your wax. Unless you are putting it on a show car and you don’t care about durability or use.

Because 845 is higher in solvents I think that it would realistically remove the glaze when you apply over it.

So before I would do an entire vehicle I would do say a quarter of a hood with glaze then apply the 845 over that as well as the bare section and see if you can actually see a difference.