Gilmour Foamaster II + Zaino Z7

[Mindflux]

Sorry guys, I tried searching. I found references to Z7 in a "foamaster" thread, but I didn't find anyone who had gotten a good ratio down.



What do you folks suggest for a ratio of z7 to water in the pickup tank? I was thinking maybe 3oz or there about?

 

[BigJimZ28]

BTW, IMO, Z7 is WAAAAY too expensive to be using with a foamgun.



You'll be spending nearly $9 on each wash.



I KNOW what you're doing wrong, you're diluting your wash solution way too much. Somewhere between 60/40 and 80/20 shampoo:water ratio is where you want to be for optimum pickup by the straw. 2-3 capfuls of Z7 is not going to create any foam at all. REMEMBER: the foam gun is mixing what's in the chamber with a good amount of water.... The settings on the foam gun are mixing what's in the chamber with water, so on setting 1, 1 ounce of what's in the chamber mixes in with each gallon of water, so think of that as 4 capfuls of Z7 in a nearly-full 5gal bucket of water, which is the recommended dilution for Z7 by zaino themselves. If you dilute the chamber solution to 50/50, then that same bucket would only have 2 capfuls of solution.....



The point of the foamgun is not to conserve shampoo, therefore things like Z7 are prohibitively expensive in the foamgun. Beyond that, I see really no reason to use expensive shampoos like Z7.

from this thread:

http://www.autopia.org/forum/detailing-product-discussion/71479-foam-gun-z7.html

 

[Mindflux]

from this thread:

http://www.autopia.org/forum/detailing-product-discussion/71479-foam-gun-z7.html

Hrm. I don't know how I missed that probably because I was looking at foamaster+z7. At any rate, if you use 1 cap per gallon of water (according to the zaino store) you should still be able to use a couple caps in the quart size cannister and set your ratio to 1 oz a gallon and have a metric boatload of foam. People use 3 ounces (to a quart) in a foam gun on a pressure washer with fantastic results.



Per this same thread you quoted.

I divided the FG bottle into fifths and filled it 1/5 with Z7 and the rest with water and it still produced a lot of foam with the pin pulled to the left with one hole still showing on the right. It might be like 2oz.

 

[Setec Astronomy]

Fluxy, what I do is use about 16 capfuls (actually, I measure by the ounce, about 5.3 oz, or a third of the bottle) in the quart foam gun reservoir, and go with the middle hole (I don't know what that is on the II, but on the I it's 4 oz/gal). Of course, that works out to the Zaino recommendation of 2 capfuls per gallon of wash...and as you noted people seem to use a lot less than I do in their foam guns.



How is that Foamaster II, BTW? If I had it to do over again I think I would get that one instead of the brass one.

 

[BigJimZ28]

I don't know what that is on the II, but on the I it's 4 oz/gal. .

on the II it is the middle setting also

A= 1oz/gal

B= 2oz/gal

C= 4oz/gal

D= 6oz/gal

E= 12oz/gal

 

[Mindflux]

Fluxy, what I do is use about 16 capfuls (actually, I measure by the ounce, about 5.3 oz, or a third of the bottle) in the quart foam gun reservoir, and go with the middle hole (I don't know what that is on the II, but on the I it's 4 oz/gal). Of course, that works out to the Zaino recommendation of 2 capfuls per gallon of wash...and as you noted people seem to use a lot less than I do in their foam guns.



How is that Foamaster II, BTW? If I had it to do over again I think I would get that one instead of the brass one.

Setec,

If you check Zaino's page they recommend 1 capful per gallon. They must have ultra-concentrated the wash. Because my wash from a few years back says 2-3 cap fulls per gallon and now their page says otherwise (I'll have to check my newest Z7 bottle).

#2 Mix one cap full of Z-7â„¢ Show Car Wash per gallon of water in a clean wash bucket.

P.S I have the brass one, I guess I thought that was the "II".

 

[Setec Astronomy]

If you check Zaino's page they recommend 1 capful per gallon. They must have ultra-concentrated the wash. Because my wash from a few years back says 2-3 cap fulls per gallon and now their page says otherwise (I'll have to check my newest Z7 bottle).

Didn't we just go through this in another thread? My newest bottle which I got last year still says 2-3 capfuls. http://www.autopia.org/forum/detailing-product-discussion/65596-zaino-z-7-wash-questions.html

 

[Mindflux]

Didn't we just go through this in another thread? My newest bottle which I got last year still says 2-3 capfuls. http://www.autopia.org/forum/detailing-product-discussion/65596-zaino-z-7-wash-questions.html

We did go through it before. But the page says one thing and the bottle another... dunno.

 

[Setec Astronomy]

We did go through it before. But the page says one thing and the bottle another... dunno.

I feel your pain, brother....

 

[Mindflux]

I feel your pain, brother....

Well I've gotta talk to Sal anyway so I'll ask him and post back.

:waxing:

 

[jswift2000]

My bottle from March says 2-3 capfuls per gallon.

 

[MattP]

I use Z7 in the foam gun, in an old Z7 bottle i pour in 3oz then fill to the top with water then give it a good mix, i do this in all my old Z7 bottles & always have a wash mix ready to go.

I use 1/2 to 3/4 of a bottle per wash on the lowest setting on the gilmore, so 6/7/8 washes per full bottle of Z7.