Festool RO 150 FEQ users beware, backing plate flew off, Part II

ZoranC

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Few days ago member here reported that backing plate flew off his Festool RO 150 FEQ while 95% in the job. That thread is here: http://autopia.org/forum/machine-polishing/94878-festool-rotex-150-fe-users-beware.html



At that point in time I could not see how that can happen. Well, as of this weekend I can see how that can happen because bp on my own 150 FEQ flew off on me. However, when it did that tool was not operating under conditions it was exactly designed for.



Tool was in random orbit mode. I was working with it for a while at speed 1. Metal part of "dust extraction port" was heating up due to it, as well as rest of the tool, and I could feel it (I was working with handle off). I have decided to lift the tool of the paint and run it a little bit in the air at speed 6 to increase air flow and cool it down. Some 15 seconds later or so bp separated itself from the tool and flew off.



Thank God nobody was hit and nothing was damaged due to it. I have taken a look at it and separation was not due to mechanical failure. Also bp did not separate itself for a while prior to it, it did it in those seconds when it was at full speed in the air.



Therefore it seems to be due to fact that no resistance against pad on one side with being thrown back and forth due to inertia on other side alllowed bp to wiggle itself eventually free.



Once bp was put back on it continued being used without any further failures. However, I was not using it at speed 6 so that factor might still remain.



I will be trying to contact Festool on this matter.
 
makes sense now. i was polishing an area around the car where it had curves, thus not all the pad was in contact with the car. scary that your plate came off with only speed 1. i was using speed 6. i returned the polisher to festool and got a refund. the tech said he examined the polisher and said nothing was wrong with it and that it was operator error. didn't want to argue with him but at least i got my money back.
 
seng12 said:
makes sense now. i was polishing an area around the car where it had curves, thus not all the pad was in contact with the car. scary that your plate came off with only speed 1. i was using speed 6. i returned the polisher to festool and got a refund. the tech said he examined the polisher and said nothing was wrong with it and that it was operator error. didn't want to argue with him but at least i got my money back.

When mine came off speed was on 6. Prior to that and after that speed was on 1 to 2. If partial contact is not enough to keep it in place then it is not operator issue. I have to be able to work around curves safely. I will be calling them tomorrow to discuss refund.
 
Guys, sorry to hear ya'll had trouble. I'm just blown away at the price of that tool. I have a PC and a Makita, guess I'll stick to them ,but the Cyclo does interest me - not enough to purchase at this time, but I'm looking hard at it.
 
Update: I just spoke to Festool service department. Backing plate depends on friction between pad and surface to keep everything in place. Therefore not enough friction (like partial or too light contact between pad and surface would cause, something we would do when using low pressure or working around tight curves, where we also lighten pressure) might result in bp wiggling itself free.



I think I will be opting for return under warranty for full refund.
 
well looks like time for the Flex RO....uses a standard Rotary backing plate....has power... just need to find one in the US....the Flex dealers near me have none as of yet....



AL
 
YoMike said:
Has anyone mention this FESTOOL problem to those detailng nuts in the UK what I've read they love it! Detailing World UK- A world for detailers by detailers.

Not yet, they are still having problem figuring out why they have to kneel when using UDM with their extension cords, so I did not want to introduce too many things for them to deal with at the same time.



:brit



Teasing aside, RO 150 FEQ is very nice and very powerfull. That's where the problem might be, in being powerfull enough at full speed to get that bp loose when there is not enough pushing back from traction.
 
AL-53 said:
well looks like time for the Flex RO....uses a standard Rotary backing plate

Al, are you sure it uses standard rotary backing plate? Their Web site it says it uses special back pad? I would be concerned if it was using standard rotary backing plate as that would imply standard mounting method and again depending on torque caused by friction to keep thing in place, which would concern me even more at 9600 opms with 8mm throw when Flextool's 6800 opms with 5 mm throw was able to do this.
 
Zoran...I talked to the Guy in Sweden that has one...on AG..Danswede I think his name is..I believe he said it is a standard type plate thread..thiers is 14mm...but he said the plate is thinner ..but used other rotary plates also....



I am going to call flex tool USA and get more info



Al
 
AL-53 said:
Zoran...I talked to the Guy in Sweden that has one...on AG..Danswede I think his name is

Yeah, I know who you are talking about.



AL-53 said:
I believe he said it is a standard type plate thread..thiers is 14mm...but he said the plate is thinner ..but used other rotary plates also....



I am going to call flex tool USA and get more info

Plate is definitely thinner from what pictures show. I would not be caught dead changing that to "bigger" plates that will increase load on something that has been designed for certain bp and not a range of plates. Please let us know what you find out. At 9600opm that thing better be locked solid when you lift pad off.
 
ZoranC said:
Not yet, they are still having problem figuring out why they have to kneel when using UDM with their extension cords, so I did not want to introduce too many things for them to deal with at the same time.



:brit



HaHa, I posted links there (UK) to these Festool problem threads let'em spin out of control! lol
 
ZoranC said:
[quote name='YoMike']HaHa, I posted links there (UK) to these Festool problem threads let'em spin out of control! lol

You like to stir the pot, don't you?[/QUOTE]

I've checked your thread there and from what I see some of them took it to the heart :rofl
 
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