Fastest curing sealant

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scooterguitar

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I love topping sealants with carnuba, thing is when I do other people's cars I don't get enough cure time, usually it is simply overnight opposed to 24 hours as most are. I run into no problems using EXP then topping a few hours later, however I would like to try a sealer that I can top very quick with shorter time suggested. I knwo Wolfgang is at 12 hrs. ANy others? I would even consider a polish that has sealant.
 
IIRC, FK1 says you can layer or top 2180 in something like 15 minutes. I'm not sure if that applies to 1000P as well, but that might be worth checking into. 2180 is pretty good stuff.
 
Zaino claims 15 minute cure time with ZFX. Duragloss 601/105/AW are all compatible and able to go on top of each. Finish Kare products can be layered on top of each other as well.
 
Zaino is the only instant cure I know about, and klasse is not curing is different than drying. If you try it you should get the ZFX and not the polish lok fo your case.
 
Slickery said:
Zaino is the only instant cure I know about, and klasse is not curing is different than drying. If you try it you should get the ZFX and not the polish lok fo your case.
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What he said about Zaino and ZFX. Up to 3 layers back-to-back-to-back. If you're in shape, you can be completely done with a car in about 4 hours. Fully cured and ready for show.
 
Not to stir the proverbial pot but this response from FK1 seems very contradictory to me:

http://www.fk1usa.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=12



That is accurate. The resins can take from 48-72 hours to fully cure. Under optimal conditions it is best to keep the surface dry for that period of time otherwise the durability can be compomised to a degree.



That said you can apply additional coats of wax or sealer after the 10-20 minute dry time without compromising the individual applications. You do not need to wait hours or days between applicationsl. This is something that is a bit unique to Finish Kare's products.





So it is 48-72 hours to fully cure right? Isn't the question what is the fastest curing sealant? I guess if you stick with the FK line and avoid moisture you would be okay topping after 15-20 minutes but the layers would not be fully cured for 48-72 hours. The response does not seem clear to me at all and it seems like a very lengthy curing product but you can top with their products relatively quickly. :dig
 
you can top a FK1 sealant right away with there waxes right away and they will cure together

with seems would be a fine way for him to go

Because he wants to top his sealant right away
 
There is nothing contradictory in the FK response. Basically all (aminofunctional) products work this way. Curable ingredients anchor to the surface and become stable in the first 15-30 minutes. Then the whole active ingredient film will harden through. This actual process lasts longer and exponentially slower as the film hardens. For example Carlack 68/JW Prime reaches 20% curing in one minute, nearly 40% after 10 minutes, 80% after 30 minutes, 90% after 60 minutes. It means that you can work on it (applying additional layers) after 30 minutes, as the product established a stable state on the surface. However it will reach its fully cured state after 48 hours.



FK products are quicker in this context. They need just 10-15 minutes to anchor to the surface. One more positive point is the layer-curability. They will harden together, but in this case the process can last up to 72 hours.



If you need more tech talk: Aminofunctional silicones/resins provide enhanced durability and detergent resistance, particularly with curable forms. One advantage of aminofunctional silicones is that they contain a polar amine group that provides excellent deposition or surface affinity. This effectively anchors the product to the finish/substrate. In the case of the curable amine silicones, a reactive alkoxy group undergoes a condensation reaction that provides a crosslinked film on the substrate. Aminofunctional silicones are available with different viscosities, which allow optimisation of properties for a particular application. They are compatible with other silicone fluids and resins and therefore may be blended to create the desired polish performance. Fatty acids may be combined with aminofunctional silicones to improve the corrosion resistance of a polish film. Stearic or lauric acid is often used for this purpose. These can also cross-link with acid waxes through the amino group.



FK 2180 is fast curing, corrosion resistant sealant with great protective qualities. Every product has a long(er) curing/hardening time; even Zaino. The catalyst just helps to reach a stable state more quickly, but there is no "flash cure" in reality. Actual curing can be traced visually when the finish shows more definition, and looks better on the next day(s). Simple and straightforward.
 
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