Factory orange peel - can a DA-only help it?

Wow, Thanks Mike!





Since the Megs system is still not available I ordered up the Mirka Abralon system yesterday. I have a '68 Firebird coming in next week for a full wet sand and buff. Car was painted 10 years ago and has been sitting in a garage ever since! :nervous2:



  • Royal Micro 1500 grit 6" disks
  • Abralon 2000 grit 6" disks
  • Abralon 4000 grit 6" disks

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RaskyR1 said:
Wow, Thanks Mike!





Since the Megs system is still not available I ordered up the Mirka Abralon system yesterday. I have a '68 Firebird coming in next week for a full wet sand and buff. Car was painted 10 years ago and has been sitting in a garage ever since! :nervous2:



  • Royal Micro 1500 grit 6" disks
  • Abralon 2000 grit 6" disks
  • Abralon 4000 grit 6" disks
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The 4000 grit is going to finish down like butter......... will give the Megs/3M unigrit a try when everything is available to order.
 
Keep in mind guys that the Meg's sanding system is more or less 3M Trizact; which has been around for years.....No need to wait.
 
Auto Concierge said:
The 4000 grit is going to finish down like butter......... will give the Megs/3M unigrit a try when everything is available to order.



Yeah, KB, Mike P and several other well know peeps have spoken very highly of the Mirka so I'm excited to try them out. :)





David Fermani said:
Keep in mind guys that the Meg's sanding system is more or less 3M Trizact; which has been around for years.....No need to wait.



Yeah, I heard that too which was another reason why I also decided to go with the Abralon.
 
David Fermani said:
No love for Trizact Rasky?



Oh I definitely like them, but if I can find something to do the same or better job for less $$$ then I'm all about it! :D







That and I like trying out new products.....feel like I never actually make any money detailing with all the stuff I buy! :D
 
David Fermani said:
Keep in mind guys that the Meg's sanding system is more or less 3M Trizact; which has been around for years.....No need to wait.



And for what it's worth, before teaching a class on Damp Sanding using the Unigrit System at this years Mobil Tech Expo I had the opportunity to discuss the differences between the 3M Trizact and the Meguiar's Unigrit papers and Jason Rose did say there is a difference between the slurries which is color and this does equate to a change in the formula/process and this does equate to a difference in the two different products.



Damp-Sanding Demo on Rental Car at Mobil Tech Expo 2010

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The sanding mark pattern in the center is after #1500 the sanding mark pattern to the outside fender is #3000

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Compounded M105

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We ended up sanding down the entire hood of this rental car 3 times plus random test spots over the course of 3 days...

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And with a little luck... we never saw the color black on the face of any of our buffing pads.... :D









So while they are similar they are not identical but I don't know if the proprietary differences are enough to amount anything as far as performance and results go.



As time goes by, because it's the nature of discussion forums to dissect and discuss a topic to death I'm confident any and all minutiae will presented for our discussing pleasure.



That said, it's alway so much fun when on forums we can get this deep into the little things....



:lol :lol :lol :lol :lol





In the big picture, both systems are going to work great for wet-sanding or damp-sanding, at some point skill level is going to be the major influencer.



And I wish both Meguiar's and 3M offered #4000 like Abralon offers, buffing out #4000 grit sanding marks is a walk in the park...





:)
 
RaskyR1 said:
Since the Megs system is still not available I ordered up the Mirka Abralon system yesterday. I have a '68 Firebird coming in next week for a full wet sand and buff. Car was painted 10 years ago and has been sitting in a garage ever since!





You lucky dog!



I'm confident we're going to see some amazing results...



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Mike Phillips said:
I had the opportunity to discuss the differences between the 3M Trizact and the Meguiar's Unigrit papers and Jason Rose did say there is a difference between the slurries which is color and this does equate to a change in the formula/process and this does equate to a difference in the two different products.





So while they are similar they are not identical but I don't know if the proprietary differences are enough to amount anything as far as performance and results go.



As time goes by, because it's the nature of discussion forums to dissect and discuss a topic to death I'm confident any and all minutiae will presented for our discussing pleasure.





No worries Mike - I'm going by what the 3M people tell me. Of course Meg's needs to tweek it a touch for the enthusiast crowd. After all, detailing is all about the little things. Nice to discuss the differences in something other that Waxes sometimes. :2thumbs:
 
orange peel can be reduced alot without sanding with the velvet and denim pads but you will never get it dead flat like sanding and it can either leave no marring or alot of marring or deep circle marks (denim) depending on the polish you use



I love sanding but still a learner
 
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