Einszett metallic polish & Klasse AIO

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qwik

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Hey guys i was wondering if using Einszett Metallic Polish than using AIO would basically kill what i just did with the Einszett. Or is it a decent step? I have alot of metallic in my paint and i find that AIO/SG really made it pop but than i came across this Einszett Metallic Polish, i figure it might help so whats the deal gurus?
 
Einszett Metallic Polish is one of the easiest products to use. It took the place of Menzerma Final Polish IMO. It is a very light abrasive (use the green can for slightly more aggressive cutting) and seems to have some light fillers in it. Provides a very slick finish.



Klasse AIO is a chemical cleaner, and thus not an abrasive. It also provides some minor filling, and a acrylic sealant in one bottle. Great stuff for prep ....



I would not use both together, but you could. The chemicals in AIO would strip any fillers that Einszett had. It would provide the protection that Einszett does not but probably better to use Klasse Sealant over the polish alone. (Might also checkout Wolfgang Concours Sealant as much easier to use)



Post your own results ! :up
 
Well its worth experimentation, i guess i can try the paint polish than throw the SG right over that, hope it adheres. I am content with the results of 2 layers of SG right now but i haven't had a chance to really detail the car in a while and constantly reading about new products, procedures etc makes me want to try different things so i'll try this i think. Thanks for the reply.
 
Why don't you skip the Klasse twins and try Glanz Wax along with the Metallic Polish. I think you will be happy.
 
Yeah, I choose between the Klasse twins and 1Z as opposed to using them on the same vehicle.



*I* think the MP looks VERY good on metallic paint, and I don't think the AIO would IMPROVE it at all, possibly the opposite. And I'd be VERY surprised if SG bonded to MP. MP has natural and synthetic waxes in it, just the sort of stuff that SG does NOT bond to. If you want to top it with a synthetic, pick something else.
 
Hrm...interesting. I appreciate the suggestions. I have only used klasse really once. I used 2 layers and i did like it, i wish i could have used it more. I had the car repainted and the paint had cured i used meguiars SWR with my 7424 than the AIO than the SG x 2



It came out really nice. I was wondering if i should try the Metallic Polish and just start over. How is the glanz wax? I thought SG was a synthetic? Anyway if i could get some people who have used both Klasse and EZ products it would help. Thanks.
 
qwik, I use both 1Z and Klasse. On my 03 Grand Cherokee, I tried the Klasse twins and then I tried 1Z. On this particular light colored SUV I liked 1Z better. 1Z brought out the metallic flake. With Klasse it made the Jeep look shiny.



On my 96 Grand Cherokee I like the Klasse twins. On this dark colored SUV, Klasse made the paint look wet and shiny. I will also continue using Klasse on this Jeep because of the durability of the sealant. This Jeep sit outside all day everyday.



I would suggest that you experiment and find the product that works for you.
 
Pugoman, I think you will have some bonding issues with MP and NXT. Perhaps someone with more knowledge about NXT will chime in.
 
Hrm i have alot of metallic flake in my car so i might try the Z. I did a search and i don't see much about the MP so i am unsure what to top it with, maybe i should just stay within the product line and use glanz?
 
I think the light solvent content will clear the way for the bonding without any worries.

It bonds over Meguiars glazes with a small amount of fillers so what would be the difference over a polish with some fillers?
 
andriver said:
Why don't you skip the Klasse twins and try Glanz Wax along with the Metallic Polish. I think you will be happy.
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I second that! But since the polish contains carnuba, you might want to do a wash before applying the Glanz. Does anyone apply Glanz directly after MP or PP?
 
I happened to try NXT over MP just this past week on a Laguna blue Miata . . . I applied NXT with a PC, which left a thin coat that wiped off easily after about a half hour; no apparent problems with application or removal. However, although the car looked awesome under artificial lighting and in the shade, pulling it into the sun revealed fine, oily smearing that would not wipe off (wiping just seemed to push the smears around, rather than removing them). With so much talk of NXT working over glazes, I thought I'd give it a try, but apparently whatever MP leaves behind is too much for the light cleaners in NXT to cut through.



I re-did the car the following evening using Glanz Wax. Again, the car looked awesome in the light in the shop, and in the artificial lighting in the parking lot. Unfortunately, the sun had already gone down, and I haven't heard back from the owner to see if there were any similar problems with the Glanz Wax.



I have used MP followed by GW on my own silver WRX, though, with good results.



Tort
 
I thought If yu are going to use SG, then you have to use AIO before that, (thats how sg bonds?) is this true, or can SG go over any polish like 1z as mentioned in the thread.

help. I just used 1z on my car to remove all the swirls, and i was thinking about doing aio and sg. I just got my car a month ago, so i am thinking for now just 1z, and some ps21, and then few months later aio and sg. any comments





thanks

ronnie

04 m3
 
Hmmm...when I used my 1Z MP...I followed with AIO, then WG Precleaner..then WG Gloss..I had no problems whatsoever.......:xyxthumbs
 
I got the 1z polishes with the intent to still use Klasse . My strategy is to use an alcohol 50 /50 mix after use of each 1z polish to get rid of the fillers and waxes, then AIO, then SG
 
Bill D said:
I got the 1z polishes with the intent to still use Klasse . My strategy is to use an alcohol 50 /50 mix after use of each 1z polish to get rid of the fillers and waxes, then AIO, then SG
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I was going to try this also,except using some Z5 over the AIO instead of SG.
 
You don't need to add the 50/50 step..the beauty of AIO is that it will clean and residue all by itself..tyr it ..works very well..I really loved the look of 1Z MP then AIO..just those 2 steps are quite impressive..add WG...shhheeeeesh!!
 
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