Edge Wools Pads with Flex??

[ABQDetailer]

Thomas, by no means am I saying you are wrong, I am just saying it surprises me wool works on the Flex with wool having a such a nap which (in my head) would seem to take away form the osillation of the Flex on only leave rotation which is much slower than the rotation of a rotary.







Are you able to cut out a step because the Flex will not hologram like a rotary?

The flex DA is a FORCED random orbital. You cannot stop the orbital motion like a Griots/PC/UDM. That's why it's so much more powerful than the PC/Griots/UDM.

 

[ABQDetailer]

This should then. ...

How many passes did the compounding require? How long did it take you to work a 2x2 section?



As mentioned above is this after just one step or is this after 2-3 steps? If only one step is there any hologramming or micro-marring left over that isn't showing up in the pictures?



I can only assume this is the results of a compounding + polishing step (2 step)...



It looks great regardless. Just curious how much time you saved versus compounding with a rotary and doing a polish + jewel step with the Flex after that (my normal routine on most clears).



TIA

 

[Bert]

The flex DA is a FORCED random orbital. You cannot stop the orbital motion like a Griots/PC/UDM. That's why it's so much more powerful than the PC/Griots/UDM.

With the PC/G110/UDM/Griots the orbit is forced (just try and stop it by pushing down the machine, it will be very difficult to do), but the rotation of the pad is not forced (that can be stopped much easier by pushing down hard with the machine)which is what makes the Flex different from those machines since both the orbit and the rotation are forced.



The rotation of the pad is what REALLY cuts but with the Flex, I believe the rotation will max out at I think 480 RPMs (better than the PC and other DA's which are not forced) where as most rotaries will go 2000 or more, hence why wool is traditionally used for rotaries.



So as I was saying, with a 3/4 inch nap (or pile) wool pad, the throw or stroke length of the pad while orbiting (8mm or .31 inches) is so much smaller than the nap of the wool pad that I would think that the only real cutting action is coming from the forced rotation of the pad which is considerably slower than the rotation of a rotary.



However, since Thomas and others have been getting good correction with the Flex using Wool either A) the 480 RPM's is enough or B) my assumption (and I guess Accum's since he too wondered how wool would work on a Flex) that the 3/4 inch nap/pile of a wool pad would absorb the orbiting action of the Flex is incorrect. Regardless, I am looking forward to using one of me PFW pads (and eventually get some of the Black Wool pads) on my Flex to give them a try.

 

[Accumulator]

I am with you Accum, I never would have thought wool would work on a DA either. It would seem the nap of wool would "absorb" the throw of the machine while osillating (sp?) and so the only action you would get would be the slow rotation of the pad. It seems it would be too slow to really amount to much correction.

Well, the 4" Edge wool pads worked well for me with M105 via PC, and so do the small LC PFW. Guess it's no surprise that such stuff will work even better via Flex. I got some larger PFWs to try with it, and I might have some white Edge finishing wool pads too (forget what all I have around here ).



Now the Surbufs, well...there I still don't see the added oomph being necessary, or perhaps even desirable :think:

 

[Bert]

Well, the 4" Edge wool pads worked well for me with M105 via PC, and so do the small LC PFW. Guess it's no surprise that such stuff will work even better via Flex.

Good point. If the small 4 inch pads can rotate fast enough on the PC then I guess the Flex should be able to force 6 inch pads to spin fast enough for decent correction.

I got some larger PFWs to try with it, and I might have some white Edge finishing wool pads too (forget what all I have around here ).

I am looking forward to trying my Edge light polishing and finishing pads also.

Now the Surbufs, well...there I still don't see the added oomph being necessary, or perhaps even desirable :think:

By no means and I one to chase after the latest "hyped" products - I finally bought a Flex a few weeks ago - but I keep reading so many comments from very reputable posters who swear they get better results and longer lives with their Surbufs than their PFW pads, that once my PFW's wear out, I will probably grab a few of the Surbufs. Their cheaper than the PFW's so why not?

 

[Thomas Dekany]

This detail (Infinity M) took me and Howareb 37 man hours to accomplish. The rotary would simply not correct this perticular paint for us.



I will post a picture what the paint looked like with just the flex after alcohol wipe. This was after all steps.



Now, can you cut out a step? On lighter colors you most definately can, because the wool finishes down so nice without holograms. Of course it will depend on the compound one is using. SSR3? Not sure. 105 (will dust like hell sadly) is another story. So is HD UNO which is perfect and no dust.



How about 205 and the black wool? That maybe another winner on lighter swirls.



Play around.



If the pc can correct with the wool pad that the Georgian daredevil uses, imagine what the flex can do. However I prefer the rotary, but I always do what is most effective in any one situation.

 

[mose]

I was thinking about changing over to EDGE pads but I didn't see any type of PFW's. Do they make one or do they have just straight wool pads?

 

[Bert]

I was thinking about changing over to EDGE pads but I didn't see any type of PFW's. Do they make one or do they have just straight wool pads?

To the best of my knowledge Edge does not have Foamed Wool.