Edge 2000 waffle -vs- regular Edge 2000 Pads

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SpaceAce

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Just curious as to what people prefer, Edge 2000 waffle or Edge 2000 Regular? (and also why)

Not worried about which color just curious if the waffle style is preferred or not. I saw a few posts in some past threads but they seemed to be when the pads first came out and now that the waffle has been around awhile I figured I would ask. Thanks for the input.
 
For me the Wave pads are my go to pad. They're easy to clean, easy to use, and applications are a breeze with them. I'll never use anything else.
 
Great thread! I've only used the flat pads. So, I'm very curious if anyone has used both types and which they prefer and why. Maybe adding a poll to this thread might be useful too.
 
Mikeyc said:
Great thread! I've only used the flat pads. So, I'm very curious if anyone has used both types and which they prefer and why. Maybe adding a poll to this thread might be useful too.
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I own both types in the same colors.

The wave for me is the better of the 2. I seem to get better results with less effort with them. Could just be that my techinque is improving, but either way I don't care. I'm a wave kinda guy... haha :smile
 
zilla said:
I own both types in the same colors.

The wave for me is the better of the 2. I seem to get better results with less effort with them. Could just be that my techinque is improving, but either way I don't care. I'm a wave kinda guy... haha :smile
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What do you mean by "better results?" Do you feel the wave pads do paint correction faster? Or are you saying you feel the paint comes out shinier with the wave pads?

Also, have you used them on various cars or all on the same car?
 
Mikeyc said:
What do you mean by "better results?" Do you feel the wave pads do paint correction faster? Or are you saying you feel the paint comes out shinier with the wave pads?

Also, have you used them on various cars or all on the same car?
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I've used them on quite a few different cars in varying conditions (from pampered... read my previous car) to neglected (read...customers cars). They work better for me because I seem to get better results faster with them. Again, it's completely and subjective opinion... I don't get as much slinging with them (though it's not like I got alot previously) they clean up easier imo, and are easier to manipulate on uneven surfaces.
 
zilla said:
I've used them on quite a few different cars in varying conditions (from pampered... read my previous car) to neglected (read...customers cars). They work better for me because I seem to get better results faster with them. Again, it's completely and subjective opinion... I don't get as much slinging with them (though it's not like I got alot previously) they clean up easier imo, and are easier to manipulate on uneven surfaces.
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Cool! Thanks for the info.
 
I lost my post somehow. Hmmm.

Anyway. I prefer the wavey ones. I find they are a smoother ride across the surface--especially horizontal panels. They are what I reach for first.
 
If people who post to this thread could note whether they use the pads with a rotary or a PC or both, I would really appreciate it. Thanks!
 
Mr. Clean said:
What are you using to clean the pads and does the multi-surfaced face require hand kneading to get the entire pad clean?
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I just use a bucket of warm water with a touch of soap in it. Let them soak for a while. I never have to knead them, cept to remove EX-P. I'm probably applying too much or something, but it's only thing that doesn't come out easily without any kneading. :)
 
Thanks Zilla. In reading your response I see that you are using it certainly for applying your LSPs. How do you find the performance (vs the flat faced pads) when polishing? I understand that the design reduces product sling, but what about getting the product to the paint surface? It would seem that additional pressure would be needed to get the product which is in the "pockets" down to the surface.
 
Mr. Clean said:
Thanks Zilla. In reading your response I see that you are using it certainly for applying your LSPs. How do you find the performance (vs the flat faced pads) when polishing? I understand that the design reduces product sling, but what about getting the product to the paint surface? It would seem that additional pressure would be needed to get the product which is in the "pockets" down to the surface.
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Excellent question. Btw, I use a PC for polishing. Haven't stepped up to a rotary just yet. I was curious about how that would work out as well, and I'm not sure if it's even necessary to do but when I apply the product to my pad I squirt a small amount onto each point on the pad. That way when I tap the product (and then spread) out onto my car, it doesn't really get forced up into the pockets's so to speak. So it's not an issue for me. :) Your mileage may vary naturally.
 
I have both the wave and flat pads and I prefer the flat over wave any day. My green and yellow wave pads look brand new still. I've had great results using the blue wave pad for finishing but I can get the job faster and get a more consistent final polish with the flat pad.
 
LikeaRock said:
...I can get the job faster and get a more consistent final polish with the flat pad.
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This is one of my "concerns" about the wave design. I have the LC VC pads, and 10:1 I pick up a flat Meg's or Propel pad because I feel they are more efficient.

Are the Edge flat pads really flat or do they have a concave face similar in design to the LC VC?
 
Mr. Clean said:
This is one of my "concerns" about the wave design. I have the LC VC pads, and 10:1 I pick up a flat Meg's or Propel pad because I feel they are more efficient.

Are the Edge flat pads really flat or do they have a concave face similar in design to the LC VC?
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The flat pads are 100% flat, and if they aren't they're darn close. I should specify that I'm using the 8" pads and a rotary, but regardless I think the flat pads are the "quicker" route... IMO. Why do I think they make the job go faster? More surface area to polish with means more consistent passes in a shorter amount of time. The wave pads seemed to need more product than my flat pads as well, which of course adds a bit more work time. I've tried every product I have/had with both styles of pads and I like the way they all perform with the flat pads. Out of all of my wave pads my blue one has seen the most use. I've had the set since May and I personally have used my green/yellow wave pads about 4 times, my brother has borrowed them twice as well. Other than that they sit in a storage container 24/7. They seem to hold up great too, my green and blue pads have seen close to 20 details on either side and they're still looking good. My green pad is starting to feel a bit grabby at times so I'll be replacing it shortly but the wear factor isn't too much really...

Bottom line: I really, really like my flat pads. Ever since I received the shorter version of the rotary adapter I haven't ran into any pad hop issues and have great control over the machine at any angle on any panel. As zilla said, my personal opinion is totally subjective, this is what I believe and I'm not trying to push either style of pads.
 
Tell me more about the adapter for a rotary. I have a Makita and I'm stuck using 6.5" LC pads (used on a PC) and I'm interested in all I can find out about Edge 2K pads.
 
The original adapter was around 3/8ths of an inch longer than the shorter version that is now offered. I can't say exactly how much shorter because I gave away my old adapter and don't remember what it measured at. There was no defect with the first adapter, but I think the guys at Edge realized you could get even more control with the pads being that much closer to the machine. Aaron from Edge sent me the adapter before they phased it in, as far as I know it's standard now. The first time I tested it out I was extremely impressed, I had more control and could operate the tool with less effort, which makes a big difference when doing a larger vehicle. You can also articulate the buffer more as well, making it easier to get those "hard to reach" areas sch as A-pillars, body lines, things of that sort
Other than 3M and Megs pads I haven't tried any other pads that are available but I'm hooked on Edge pads, they're durable and I really like how many different pad options they have. The green pad is my go-to pad for most jobs and I love finishing with the blue pad. I just bought some 3M Perfect-it Ultrafina SE yesterday and tried it out on my dads bike (via blue Edge pad), I've always had great results with the blue pad but it kicks ass with SE. I'll go out on a limb and say I've never seen the finish on the tank look so flawless, even without any LSP on it :cool:

Dolan
 
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