Durability of #16 caompared to # 26

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I'm buying some #26 paste wax and I wanted to know how long it lasts on a black car compared to # 16. # 16 is discontinued. :(

Please let me know if you're aware of their average durability.



Thanx:)
 
IMO they are similar with a slight edge to #16. I say that #16 might last one or two weeks longer, but both will last over 6 weeks. I like #26 looks better.
 
I was just thinking about this earlier today as I am preparing a full detail on my '98 Tacoma and was contemplating which to finish with.



In my opinion, #16 is more durable, yet I like the look and application/removal of #26 a touch more.



Without hijacking - what about #16 topped with #26?
 
It's too bad that they discontinued #16.

If I had # 16, yeah, I would layer it with #26. that would be killer on black.
 
Is there any durability or performance differences between #26 liquid or paste?



I have 2 cans of 16, a can of 26 paste and some 26 liquid..and I can never decide which to use...like a kid in a candy store..
 
I've *heard* that paste waxes *look* al bit better than the liquids.



But, that's what i've heard. I don't know from experience if it's true.



Maybe sombody can clarify.
 
I think you should only use liquid if machine applying your LSP. Most people would agree that pastes have a little more longevity because there are less solvents in them.



Otherwise, I find the paste (particularly #16) easier to work with and spreads more evenly on a foam app - I HIGHLY recommend Viking's contour grip...David B. sells them
 
#26 is light years past #16. It lasts about as long and looks great. I like #16, but not so much that I'd use it regularly. I bought several cans and gave them all away. It's way far down my list of preffered products.





Tom
 
Mosca said:
#26 is light years past #16. It lasts about as long and looks great. I like #16

Tom
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Tom - was wondering if you could quantify this statement? Is it ease of application/removal, etc, that makes you like #26 more? Seems most people would agree #26 and #16 are neck and neck.



I am interested because these are my only two waxes that I use.
 
Wow- that's quite the statement, Mosca! How does one quantify something of that magnitde?

:nixweiss



Personal preference notwithstanding, I use both #26 and #16 and would agree #16 has a slight edge in durability. The main difference between the two seems to be the darkenening effect of #26. They apply and buff off identically to me.

I would think#26 would look best on black, as it would give it a deeper shine.

My $.02



:wavey
 
While I prefer the look of #26 to #16 *I* find #16 to be much more durable. I can squeeze 10 weeks out of #26 in Memphis. I have personally seen #16 go for 3 months. I would imagine that #26 protects better, but #16 is more durable. Not sure which is more important for you.....



You could always apply one thin layer of #26, then top with #16...that is what I would do.
 
ebpcivicsi said:


You could always apply one thin layer of #26, then top with #16...that is what I would do.
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I am going for darker/deeper rather than clear/reflective on my DD, so:



I was thinking the opposite, as #16 would provide the durable base protection while the slightly less durable #26 would top it with its darker/deeper look. Am I just splitting hairs here?
 
blackcaraddict said:
I am going for darker/deeper rather than clear/reflective on my DD, so:



I was thinking the opposite, as #16 would provide the durable base protection while the slightly less durable #26 would top it with its darker/deeper look. Am I just splitting hairs here?
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Yes and no...:D IMo the difference in looks between #16 and #26 is very discernable and the products *may* act differently depending upon which one tops the other.



My way of thinking is that since the #16 is more durable you would want it on top, IMO it will add very little since the paint will be prepped and already have a coat of #26. Perhaps it is from using both extensively that I feel like the #16 should be on top of the #26. That is just how *I* would apply the two. In my mind that is how they should work. I don't think there is any right/wrong way to do it. Please let us know how it turns out.
 
blackcaraddict said:
I am going for darker/deeper rather than clear/reflective on my DD, so:



I was thinking the opposite, as #16 would provide the durable base protection while the slightly less durable #26 would top it with its darker/deeper look. Am I just splitting hairs here?
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Durability is debatable between the two. Some people get better durability with #16 while others get it with #26. Since you're going for darker/deeper, use #26. Carnauba waxes in general are not good at layering (I'm sure I just opened another can of worms!).



Have you seen Mosca's ride? It's a red Miata. I've seen pictures of it with #26. It's absolutely stunning! I'm sure if you saw the picture too you'd reach for the #26 and forget about #16 altogether.:)
 
I'll preface by saying that I LIKE #16.



But I don't think that it offers anything appearance wise that you can't get from Collinite, Natty's, S100, P21S, etc; it's a wet, reflective look.



FOR ME, the look of #26 is special. It darkens, it doesn't ADD reflection but allows natural reflection, it's wet, and it's deep, like swimming pool deep.



AS far as durability, I believe that that is almost impossible to compare. It's wrong to wax a car and then wait for the wax to be gone to wax it again; the better choice is to be on a schedule to wax the car. For a car parked outside 24/7, a 6 week schedule would work for either product, an 8 week schedule would probably not. Whereas a vehicle that is garage kept and driven on weekends only, a 12 week schedule would work for either product, a 16 week schedule would probably not.



So, if the two are essentially the same (for practical purposes) in durability (niether is Zymol Estate Glaze at the one end, neither is Zaino at the other), and #26 is (IMO) far more distinctive and better looking, then #16 has no purpose.



I've given away 2 jars of S100 and 3 cans of #16, and a jar of Natty's. I LIKE them, but why would I use them when there's something better?





Tom
 
Thanks guys - this Saturday morning will be the test. Perhaps just #26x2 for a nice even coat? Still debating - I hate to leave #16 all by itself since I have used it so much in the past.



I'll post in click in brag, since I bought this truck in NC a couple months ago and have done nothing but wash it. Its swirled pretty bad, so 3M FCRC, 3M PI III MG (if necessary) -both by PC with white LC pads, then 26x2 or 16x1 then 26x1 OR 26x1 then 16x1. Ahhh, life is full of difficult decisions, isn't it?
 
Hi blackcaraddict, can't wait for you to post your review on #26. Presently I have #16 and pretty happy with the look it creates on my car but it seems like the general comments here is #26 looks better. So would like to see you car with #26 and your comments on #26 as compare to #16.
 
Mosca said:


FOR ME, the look of #26 is special. It darkens, it doesn't ADD reflection but allows natural reflection, it's wet, and it's deep, like swimming pool deep.



Tom
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So correct me if I'm wrong, but your statement about #26 being light years ahead of #16 is mostly due to personal preferences, not for technical reasons or general appearance reasons? That was the feeling I got when you initially made the statement.
 
Well, I would say that general appearance reasons ARE 100% personal preference; if you prefer a wet reflective look, then you would wonder why anyone would choose #26.



I'm not privy to the formulas, but I think it's common knowledge that Meguiar's considers #26 to be an advancement technologywise over #16.



What I was getting to with the comparison of durability is that in practical terms, none of us should wait "until the end" to rewax. Between the two products, at 6 weeks you should rewax a daily driver that is outside 24/7 regardless or #16 or #26. With that in mind, I choose the #26 because of general appearance reasons (which are personal preference).
 
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