Does bird poop totally remove wax?

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mikebai1990

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Yesterday, my mom drove the Acura to work and by the time she got back, there was bird poop all over the car! I was pretty mad, so I just got out and sprayed the stained areas with some water and careful rubbing with my hands to loosen the crud. After loosening the crud and thoroughly spraying off everything, the area that was affected didn't seem to bead water anymore. I originally had 2 layers of Collinite 476S which was spit shined with cold water, done about 1 week ago. Within a day, does bird poop really fully remove the wax originally on the car? Or would the beading come back after a good wash? Or should I have used QD to "re-protect" the affected areas after cleaning?
 
Within a half hour bird poop will take the wax off your paint and possibly give you a nice little mark in your paint :/
 
you should have used a QD to remove it instead of water and your hand ...would of been better..



but to answer you question...some bird crap is very acidity...depending on their diets...also they P and crap at the same time..it is mixed together...so it makes it a very corrosive product...



I have seen bird crap that was on a finish less than 6 hours and it did etch the CC real bad...



Pidgeons and seagulls have some strong crap..like the critter on Alien..it eats thru anything...



the wax may be gone.. but wash and see...wax makes a better barrier than most sealants for bird bombs and water spot etching...



just wash and rewax..



Al
 
AL-53 said:
...wax makes a better barrier than most sealants for bird bombs and water spot etching...Al
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Agreed. I've had Collinite 845 on a non-garaged daily driver for 5 months, sometimes with the crap sitting on there for a week, and no etching. A two week old application of EX-P and I get etching within less than 6 hours of wiping it off(garage queen, too)...kinda makes you wonder about the protection of sealants. IMO, a sealant simply can not match the protection of a heavy nuba(well mabey not Klasse or Z).
 
AL-53 said:
you should have used a QD to remove it instead of water and your hand ...would of been better..



but to answer you question...some bird crap is very acidity...depending on their diets...also they P and crap at the same time..it is mixed together...so it makes it a very corrosive product...



I have seen bird crap that was on a finish less than 6 hours and it did etch the CC real bad...



Pidgeons and seagulls have some strong crap..like the critter on Alien..it eats thru anything...



the wax may be gone.. but wash and see...wax makes a better barrier than most sealants for bird bombs and water spot etching...



just wash and rewax..



Al
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Thanks, guys. Good do learn that bird droppings have such high acidity. AL-53, I'll make sure to use QD next time. I just felt that using QD and a MF would just loosen the crud and start scratching the paint when I wiped it with the MF. Would you use some water to rinse off the droppings first?
 
mikebai1990 said:
......Would you use some water to rinse off the droppings first?
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If you have access to water it would be good to let it soak a bit to soften up so you can just rinse as much off as possible w/o having to rub very hard. The ideal way would be to just rewash the car. Bird crap will often have grit in it that will marr your paint if you're not careful.... depending on what they ate, it can really be some nasty stuff.



I really think it depends on their diet as to how bad it will affect paint. I've seen it etch into clear coat in a matter of just a couple of hours, and then I have seen some beaters where it has been on there for days (or weeks) and it doesn't leave a mark :nixweiss.



Just hope you don't have a light colored car after they have eaten something like blueberries :eek:.
 
Good thing cows don't fly !



Bird crap is very acidic and acids act like a solvent and disolve wax. I think polymers may hold up better against them, but they should ALWAYS BE REMOVED as soon as possible. I carry Quik Detail spray and towels just for this purpose - I saturate the crap with QD spray, then use a paper towel to carefully collect the mess not by wiping - more like scooping (as there can be grit in the poo that can cause scratches).



Anyway, you will likely need more LSP after the removal process.
 
It's so funny hearing people talking about the "diet" of birds, and how that affects their droppings. It's just so hilarious for some reason... :nana:



I'll definitely use QD next time to restore the protection after getting bird droppings off. And then I'll rewax when I get the time. Abbeysdad, if I'm not mistaken, I believe that actually carnauba waxes perform better when bird bombs are dropped onto the car. Most people say that many cars covered with polymer waxes tend exhibit etching more often than those covered with carnaubas... :nixweiss
 
Birds also use small 'rocks' kept in their gizzards to mill their food,

this would cause some rock particles (sand) to pass through with their poop...

just another reason to use a lot of liquid to 'soften up' the droppings prior to wiping it off...



Lil Dog
 
Protection against bird poop all depends on the protectant one uses rather than the type one applies. If someone reference a certified test denoting a measurable difference between sealants and waxes in protecting against bird poop please post.



Considering that the only harm done in this cases was wax/sealant removal and no etching, the protectant here did it's job. Just apply some more wax and count your blessings. :think2
 
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