Does anybody use glazes for wash&wax jobs

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qbmurderer13

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Hey guys, I was just wondering if anybody used glazes for those customers that dont want a whole polish job? I figured a glaze would hide most imperfections and make it look decent. Can glaze be used as an LSP? Or would it just be better to skip that and just go to a wax? Also does a glaze offer any kind of protection or do they have to be followed up with a wax?
 
Generally glazes offer little protection and will wash off very easily.



A wax with some hiding ability, like NXT would be a better choice, but still short term.



If you are using a machine something like poli-seal or 106 (quite a few others fit) with a OCW cleanup is fast enough to offer a little improvement and some decent protection.
 
A glaze is used under a LSP. Red Moose Glaze with Souveran or any wax is a winner. Now Danese says his Glaze can be used on top of a LSP. Also a pure polish like Meguiars #7 or 81 can be used on top also. I would not use a glaze with a polymer sealant as Zaino, Meg. 21, etc
 
Glazes are for body shops. They are body shop safe, and allow the paint to breathe. I would only use a glaze on fresh paint.





John
 
I thought the whole purpose of a glaze was to hide imperfections?!?! I hope fresh paints don't have imperfections!!



Regardless I recently used VMG+RMG (Pink Moose) then topped with CMW. The results were outstanding on a black CLK230.



I used CCS red pads to apply both with a Flex 3401. The whole process took less than 30 minutes to apply, and that's letting the Pink Moose cure for a few minutes (not sure that's even needed?). Seriously less than 10 minutes to wax an entire car with the Flex+Red CCS....you gotta like that.



Your customers will be thrilled IMHO.
 
Glazes, still the most missunderstood product on Autopia....!



And no there not there to hide things, though they can be used for this. Like wise you can apply them fresh paintwork too.



There are many many glazes that do different and create different effects.



Things like RMG will really improve metalic pop even on highly finished paintwork that looks wet.



Yellow Moose will give depth and brightness to solid colours.



The list goes on....!
 
its a wash and wax and you are talking about removing defects???? not possible since there are no abrasives in the wax



some waxes do a good deal of covering defects, but no removal



if you are glazing then waxing, might as well use poliseal and get better results in less time, but then you are one stepping the finish, not just waxing it and should charge accordingly
 
Showroom Shine said:
Does anyone use the Danase Wet Glaze?
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Yes. It's a great product, but I don't think it has any fillers. It does add some wetness and it's acrylic, so there are no bonding issues if you want to use a sealant over it.
 
I agree. Glazes give the wet look and depth. DWG is a good glaze. If your not using a glaze, your missing out a awesome finish. JMHO .......



steelwind101 said:
Glazes, still the most missunderstood product on Autopia....!



And no there not there to hide things, though they can be used for this. Like wise you can apply them fresh paintwork too.



There are many many glazes that do different and create different effects.



Things like RMG will really improve metalic pop even on highly finished paintwork that looks wet.



Yellow Moose will give depth and brightness to solid colours.



The list goes on....!
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ABQDetailer said:
I thought the whole purpose of a glaze was to hide imperfections?!?! I hope fresh paints don't have imperfections!!
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Fresh-paint-safe glazes also provide a little bit of sacrificial layer, and thus offer a little protection while the paint is outgassing. But this protection really is minimal and not something I'd recommend for wash/wax customers.



toyotaguy said:
if you are glazing then waxing, might as well use ..[something with some abrasives]...and get better results in less time, but then you are one stepping the finish, not just waxing it and should charge accordingly
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Yeah, that's what I was thinking. Some one-step products can do a lot with nearly the same effort as merely waxing.
 
For what it's worth, I have found the CG's M-Seal will fill in a lot of fine scratches and imperfections. There are some swirls and micro-marring on our Corrolla from a prior application of OHC that were completely hidden by the M-Seal.



So I guess you may want to interpret that as a sealant/glaze (used very loosely)?
 
toyotaguy said:
its a wash and wax and you are talking about removing defects???? not possible since there are no abrasives in the wax



some waxes do a good deal of covering defects, but no removal



if you are glazing then waxing, might as well use poliseal and get better results in less time, but then you are one stepping the finish, not just waxing it and should charge accordingly
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I am not talking about removing defects as I know its not possible without polish. Most of my customers think theyre paint is in decent condition and only opt to have a wash&wax. Then when I wash the car the defects really show and they end up looking at me like I did something to their car. I figured a once over with a glaze would hide most of the swirls that were exposed after the wash. Instead of having them pay for a one step.



Im looking for a glaze or even a sealant as somebody mentioned with plenty of fillers and somewhat good durability.
 
M21 sealant covers up some defects. so does megs gold class...Megs NXT covers some up too...I think all of the megs line up covers defects actually.



I know that poorboys EX doesnt cover, neither does collinite 845
 
I'd do a Men polish PO85RD then follow with a glaze as RMG then a wax. If you go the sealant route PO85RD then Meg. #21 JMHO Looks should be awesome if the paint is in decent shape.
 
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