russ968 said:
...we judged a '67 912, all original 172K miles, with the original owner who had only hand washed/polished and waxed for the past 36 years...car so sweet just made you want to cry...great shine yet he had a spot on the top of a rear fender where he'd finally worn through the paint...I'll be cool with that in 37 years
....You've just got to have a soft spot for Ed "Big Daddy" Roth...he made cars and customizing them his life...and came up with these wild cartoons when I was a kid...just makes you wanna laugh. :lol
Yeah, that 912 is the sort of car *I'D* really appreciate.
Heh heh, you're dating yourself with the Ed Roth stuff...and so am I

as *I* remember that stuff from *MY* childhood!
JPS911and JB- As russ968 said, it's counter-intuitive, BUT the brushes work if you have the patience and self-discipline for them (and use a high-lubricity soap). Sorry, that sounds sanctimonious/self-righteous and I *DONT* mean to come across that way (at least this time

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[thread-hijacker voice:] Up on my soapbox Re Boar's Hair Brushes!
*IF* you use the BHB correctly (don't let the vehicle get too dirty for too long, use no real pressure, rinse after every pass, etc.) it DOES NOT MAR regular automotive paint (that's a disclaimer because there's some AWFULLY soft paint out there), especially most clearcoats. I've looked under VERY harsh lighting and with magnification. I give a lot of the credit to the brush's free-rinsing nature. NOTHING gets caught up in it, it all rinses out.
Someone (maybe ScottWax, can't remember) tested one out on a black BMW and was surprised that it DID NOT mar the finish.
The risk (and where the self-discipline comes in) is that it's just SO tempting to do a whole panel before rinsing, or to push down just a LITTLE bit, or to otherwise "cheat". Also, whenever you let a car get so dirty that the dirt "bonds" with the surface/your wax, you're at risk no matter what you use. And yep, I've put some micro-marring on a few of my cars with one, my fault, not the brush's. I would've done it with my mitts, too.
I sent a few of them back because the bristles were contaminated with the epoxy used to set them. Swirl-city if you didn't notice it before using. I also returned a "flow-through" brush. Got some micro-marring from it on (very soft single-stage but NOT when I used it on the C5) that spooked me. Its bristles were just too stiff, even when wet. I'd test ANY brush, when wet, and make sure it won't scratch (it shouldn't). You DO have to replace them eventually, the flagging at the ends of the bristles wears away. I keep my old ones (from the early '80's!) for use on other people's cars that are gonna get the FCRC-type treatment anyhow. End of rant....