DAWN--what Dawn??

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Joe K -- 01 Green

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Last weekend decided to attack the black Explorer which has been a victum of road oils, etc. Worst stuff was removed but glop still lingered on doors and rear quarters; decided might as well go all the way and start over (wasn't real pleased with my last adventure of Dawn, clay, DACP, NXT, Collinite). The last two didn't like each other which led to smears.



Anyhow--took DAWN and HOT water in a bucket; washed twice, then clayed--well--car beaded as good as before I started. What's with that?? I expected sheeting....



The next day; surface was clean and smooth; went with DACP to clean up scratches and then just put a coat of NXT on. To be honest--a polishing pad for applying and a finishing pad for removing, MF for the final touchup anf I did the Explorer in about 40 minutes and it looks good. See how it is in 2-3 weeks.
 
Wow, You washed with dawn twice in a row.



Anyway, thats really weird why the water did not sheet. When i did the dawn wash to prepare for Zaino, the water just sticks to the hood, there was little beading of water.

What wax were you using?
 
I'm assuming a Prepsol type product would get a totally wax free without as much effort as the excessive Dawn washing--ineffective any way huh?
 
If you used QD when you clayed, that is probably why the paint is beading still. New paint will also bead for several months without waxing, so if your car is new that also might explain it.



Or.....Collinite is like armor plating! ;)
 
Scottwax said:
Or.....Collinite is like armor plating! ;)
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Heh heh, Scottwax you really oughta give the Collinite a try, but then your customers wouldn't need their vehicles' LSPs redone very often :D



I've used Dawn on Collinite, that really is happened with Joe K.'s situation. Of course the DACP sorta made it all a moot point anyhow...But I'd bet that the claying was only removing stuff stuck to/in the Collinite; he never got to bare paint until the DACP.
 
Please do not use Dawn. :o



But I mean, if you're going to do it--you might as well go all out!



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Power through grease and grime with the Dawn Power Dish Brush�a battery-powered, rotating bristle tool that redefines the way you do dishes. Dawn Power Dish Brush makes cleaning your dishes faster and easier because it does the work, not you.



Dawn Power Dish Brush has a Power Ringâ„¢ that combines stiff and soft bristles to clean edges and hard-to-reach corners. The stiff bristles remove tough baked-on or dried food, while the soft bristles wipe away loose food to give all your dishes a grease-free clean!



If you're concerned about dry hands:

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Improves hands. Removes grease. Dawn Complete makes your hands look and feel better, and like Dawn® Original, it's great on tough grease. Plus, it now comes in Apple Blossom® and Floral scents, in addition to Original and Antibacterial



Apparently that is also good for killing them harmful bacteria on your car. Sometimes I drive by cow manure and I believe the e coli is what is causing my paint imperfections.





I wonder if this is what Sal Zaino would use for bird poo?

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Now, the next thing is new, so I haven't tried it--but I wouldn't use the tough side for paint. Maybe for windows. You know, sometimes you just want to quickly clean your car AND get dish soap hands and you just want to throw it away.

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:nixweiss using dawn on a car just seems so backwards to me.
 
Accumulator-I may have to give Collinite a try. Probably Blitz too.



I have started switching customers over to #16 for the fall and winter weather. Nothing too bad here, but the last several falls and winters have been pretty wet.
 
Scottwax- Well, as I half-jokingly said, you might not want to use something so durable on customer's cars. If they don't mind the look they'll probably start *requesting* the stuff ;) If they're impressed with how #16 beads, they won't believe their eyes with the Collinite.



I'd be *very* interested in your take on Collinite, given your extensive experience and the wide range of products you've used. While it's not a "beauty" wax, IMO it's better than some people make it out to be, at least on some paints.



Oh, and FWIW, I didn't get any staining from the Collinite 476S, which might be a factor for a pro (time is money and all that). I even intentionally applied it to the black plastic and rubber trim on the Volvo just to see what would happen- used a sorta w-o-w-o method (or at least I didn't let it set up too awfully long). Much to my pleasant surprise it didn't stain the trim and it actually looked good and held up all winter (though it didn't look too hot when it *did* need redone, but I just redid the same thing and all was well). Dunno how it would work on the trim on *other* vehicles, but I thought it was worth mentioning.
 
Blitz is a very nice looking product with great durability :up If I were going long lasting waxes I'd take the Collinite only because I haven't tried it.
 
Do not use Dawn on the car at all !!!!!



It is bad that Zaino said it now everyone thinks you need it, do not do it!!!



bad idea, he should never of said it@!!
 
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