Well, if your talking about the touchless washes I would say yes. The premise of them being touchless is that the solvents and cleaners in the soap are bumped up to break up grime without touching the surface. Dont expect this to come out totally clean either. Without agitation there will still be SOMETHING left on the paint. However these soaps may not remove it in one shot, but durability will really be hurt. My opinion, wash conventionally, and if you dont have time at the moment, leave the car dirty. If its not too bad you can use a MF and a QD and clean the car that way.