Collinite removal

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Folks,



Im planning to put on some Collinite 915 shortly, and my search has shown me that the way to deal with the hard to remove aspect of this excellent paste wax is to remove it before it hazes.



But, the instructions on the can state that you are supposed to let it dry thoroughly to a haze first, and then remove..



So, those people who have used it, and removed it before it dries so that its not so difficult to remove, do you feel youve lost any longevity or durability removing it this way?



Ive tried removing it after hazing, and havent used it since because its too much work! But I did like the way it lasts, so Im going to try again, but this time, wipe on and wipe off, as I do with S100. Hopefully I wont pay a longevity penalty, as this is one of the main aspects that make this a good wax to use especially in the winter..
 
I use Collinite 476S and it has a reputation of being difficult to remove also. I use a damp foam app and apply THIN coats a section at a time than buff off with a short nap MF. No problems at all.
 
I have used Collinite 476 before using the WOWO method and removal was not a problem. Not as easy as s100/p21s, but I don't think you will experience any longevity problems if you don't follow the exact instructions. I applied the 476 to my A4 last Thanksgiving and it was still beading well into January before I stripped it to apply Optimum's Spray Wax.
 
You can even let the 476S sit overnight and then remove it the next day without too much effort (It happened to me, I forgot a panel ;)). The key, as the others mentioned before is a very very thin coat. The thinnest you can apply it, the better. In fact, I apply it by machine to ensure than my coverage is even. The coat has to be barely visible.



Post some pics of the car when you are done. Several of us who started using collinite recently were quite shocked by how good it looked after hearing its reputation of "not a good looking wax" ......
 
Apply it very, VERY thin and you'll have zero problems with WOWO or letting it haze.



This product performs as advertised & exceeds the expectations of the buzz. I applied 3x layers of #476s in October & it's still beading nicely 4 months later. Nothing special done beyond regular touchless wand washes (rinse only, no soap) and a hand washing when the weather allows.



Nice product, highly recommended.
 
The instructions on my fleetwax can say to do one panel at a time. It's true. Wipe it off JUST after it hazes. And like everyone else says, keep the application THIN.



It still looks awesome on my black ss Galaxie, and I'll use it again next fall!



Jason
 
Wow... this sounds awesome.. IM going to head out in a few minutes.. Will first apply some Finesse It to get rid of some winter damage ; and then, the collinite. IM going to use a putty knife, and apply it thinly by scraping it acrross my Finishing pad on my PC, and then work it in well enough so that only a thin layer is there. Ill test the hazing; if its easy to remove, Ill let it haze, otherwise Ill just wipe on wipe off....
 
paul e said:
[B.. IM going to use a putty knife, and apply it thinly by scraping it acrross my Finishing pad on my PC, and then work it in well enough so that only a thin layer is there... [/B]
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After you spread it on the pad, try to wipe/scrape off as much as you can. It's pretty incredible how little you really need. Keep in mind that very little wax actually sticks to the paint, most of what you put on gets wiped off anyhow.
 
Best indicator I can give you about how much Collinite to use is this: I applied 3x layers to an Accord Coupe (medium size car) & you can hardly tell any has been used. The surface of the wax is barely cupped and, at this rate, I'd guestimate a can could last well over 10 years if used correctly.



Like Accumulator said, most of the wax you apply will be removed as residue. Better to do 2 or 3 thin light layers to assure uniform coverage than I mega-heavy layer that will be a nightmare to remove.
 
NYV6Coupe said:
Better to do 2 or 3 thin light layers to assure uniform coverage than I mega-heavy layer that will be a nightmare to remove.
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:xyxthumbs



"The more the better" doesn't apply to car wax application.
 
The deed is DONE! :D



First, after I washed, I was surprised to see that the water was Still beading from my last application, which was hand applied S100 6 wks ago to the day! Since it was still beading, and since the paint was smooth to the touch and hadnt picked up too many scratches over the winter so far, I decided to dispense with the polish step I was planning, and went right to the PC application of my 915.



Clearly, I see what my problem was last time I used it.. Both it and Blitz are hi content Carnauba pastes, and are pretty similar I believe, both known for quality and longevity as their claim to fame.. And from the olden days, I remember hand applying paste waxes HEAVILY, til the car was all swirled up in the haze... First time I applied these, thats what I did.. No wonder I remember it being really hard to put on and take off.



This time , I laid it on the pc finishing pad with a putty knife, scraping it thin and even. I did the entire hood without reloading. I did the roof and rear deck from a new load.. And I did each side complete with a new load, but each load was thin, and the residue it left on the paint was LIGHTly applied, but enough to do the job I believe.



I used a cotten terry bonnet applied over a wool pad for cushioning on the PC to remove each section, and it came off easily.. Even those parts I had to remove by hand wasnt bad at all. Not like S100, but not bad.



The results? First thing i noticed is, it feels Very different to the touch than the S100 after both have dried. The S100 imparts a 'softish' feel to the touch; almost a little greasy.. It feels Waxlike, ie, you know youve applied wax ... But the Collinite makes the panel feel almost as though nothing was applied. And yet, when I sprayed some water, it beaded up higher than Ive ever seen.. Thats a really big difference than the feel of the S100. Im very satisfied with the shine; I wouldnt call it the greatest shine Ive ever seen, but its more than adequate, and I bet if I had polished it first, there would have been very little difference with the S100; hell.. there was very little difference in appearance now. I can see IM going to make this my wax to use when durability is a key issue.



Thanks guys for all the help..
 
What about my observation of what the Collinited surface feels like, as opposed to an S100 surface? Anybody else share my obeservastions? (btw, im making an assumption that a 915 and a 476 surface feels the same)
 
paul e said:
What about my observation of what the Collinited surface feels like, as opposed to an S100 surface? Anybody else share my obeservastions? (btw, im making an assumption that a 915 and a 476 surface feels the same)
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Yeah I agree for the most part but I found 476S to be a little more slick than you are suggesting.



Try Insulator wax if you want to feel a difference. This stuff is slick. It's also very glossy looking compared to 476S. It's a joke to apply and remove and durability is awesome. Insulator Wax is the liquid version of 476S.
 
Regarding the surface, I think it felt like it had protection. Decent slickness, unreal beading, good looks. Yers, other products felt more "present" aftrer application, but after 2 months the 476S still felt ther, while others were already gone.



By the way, as the others sugested, if you are willing to sacrifice some durability use the 845 instead. Among the slickest products, great looks ans very easy to apply and remove. In my opinion, it is the best all-around carnauba you can get (durability, looks and application)





Alex
 
>>By the way, as the others sugested, if you are willing to sacrifice some durability use the 845 instead. Among the slickest products, great looks ans very easy to apply and remove. In my opinion, it is the best all-around carnauba you can get (durability, looks and application) <<



Speaking of Liquid Waxes, this gets tricky.. Somehow, I wound up getting TWO bottles of Pinnacle's Liquid Sovereign. Ive used it and liked it.. Havent tested its durability, but I think its appearance is similar to that of S100, and being liquid, its use with the PC of course is a breeze. Not that Collinite Pastes cant be used on the PC also, but theres no denying that nothing is as easy as pouring it onto the pad, vs the spatula method.



So, I like what Ive seen of the Collinite pastes very much, and Ill take everybody's word that its among the longest lasting of all carnauba pastes. Now, I prefer liquids to pastes, because theyre easier to use on the PC. So, now that you guys are recommending this Collinite 845, I have a decision to make.. How much durability, if any, are we sacrificing using the liquid 845 over the 915 or the 476? Given the fact that Sovereign, being more of a 'boutique' wax, probably produces a better 'appearing' surface, do 'we' prefer the 845 of the Sovereign for a durable, great looking finish?
 
After I bought my Collinite #915 (of course I should have done this first) I contacted Mike Taylor and Mike Oczkowski at Collinite with a few questions and here is what they told me (March 11, 2002):



#845 Insulator Wax - our best selling car wax - people prefer this product because of its easy-on, easy-off application. Sells for $13.95 per bottle.



#476s Super Doublecoat Past3 Wax - by far our most durable paste wax, a bit harder to apply and remove compared to the #845. Becuase it contains more wax per ounce it is more durable when it comes to shine and protection. I would recommend this one. Sells for $14.20 per 9 oz can.



#915 Marque D'Elegance - comes from the same formulation as the #476s except it contains 24% more carnauba wax and has a coconut fragrance smell to it. We basically came out with this product to attract people who were buying Zymol products. We felt we could provide those customers with a better and more affordable product. It sells for $25.00 per can but I tell most people that if they are looking to save money and still get a great shine buy the #476s. If you did one side of the hood with #476s and #915 with the other you wouldn't notice a major difference.



When I called and talked to them I was told to apply and remove one panel at a time to make the removal process easier. They said I would not be sacrificing looks or durability to do this. Works for me!



Three years ago the email address was [email protected] and their number was 315-732-2282.
 
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