Coke and Pepsi are the same???

Jngrbrdman

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I figured that DC needed a little drama in its blood, so I bring to you the following statment that I found on another site. Worthy of debate? Probably not, but its drama that we desperately need. People have been far to nice and agreeable around here lately. Let's draw some lines in the sand and hash this one out. Who's with me!? :D

Can you believe this? I have done almost no real research on this, but it is clear to me that coke and pepsi are the exact same product, but they have been tweaked a little bit to keep people in the dark. They look the same, bubble the same, and have the same effect on my system with their identical ingredients such as sugar, caffiene, and carbonated water. The only difference is the packaging, taste, secret sauce, and where they are made. Other than that I think they are exactly the same. It is my uneducated opinion that Coke (or Pepsi) is just trying to rip me off by selling me the same drink packaged differently, and at some times at a higher cost. I once paid 2 bucks for a can of coke in a vending machine at a hotel in Atlanta. Now, i thought Coke was made in Atlanta. The only explaination to this is that the product I bought was actually made in the Pepsi manufacturing facility and shipped to Atlanta, thus bringing the higher price tag. Could that be true? Have I been duped all these years? Which should I stop drinking? Is Coke a Pepsi product or is it the other way around? How will I decide???
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JaredPointer said:
Don't you need to be the owner of another soda mfg. to bring this up??????? :lol

He used to be run OCDPharmacy before he got too busy at his full time job so I think that he qualifies to take the Pepsi challenge!
 
You have that all wrong because they are both made by americas choice and you can get that at walmart for FIfty cent or is that the wrapper 50 cent.. I'm confused now... maybe we need to just go out and smell the poorboy's....Much better then flowers I don't sneeze at them
 
You are all wrong. Coke and Pepsi are actually just products made by my company Love Buzzard, Inc. and then sold to Coke and Pepsi for branding and distribution. I supply all brown and bubbly drinks in the world because I own the copyright and trademark on 'brown and bubbly drinks'. Even Dr. Pepper and all versions of it belong to me. Pepsi tried to get around my dominating presense in the industry by releasing that Crystal Pepsi junk back in the 90's, but when I threatened to deny them my 'brown and bubbly' drink products, they quickly pulled the clear garbage off the shelf.

That should settle it. There is only one manufacturer of brown and bubbly drinks in this country. They all come from me. I'm smooth with the carbonation. :naughty
 
The Fuzz said:
You are all wrong. Coke and Pepsi are actually just products made by my company Love Buzzard, Inc. and then sold to Coke and Pepsi for branding and distribution. I supply all brown and bubbly drinks in the world because I own the copyright and trademark on 'brown and bubbly drinks'. Even Dr. Pepper and all versions of it belong to me. Pepsi tried to get around my dominating presense in the industry by releasing that Crystal Pepsi junk back in the 90's, but when I threatened to deny them my 'brown and bubbly' drink products, they quickly pulled the clear garbage off the shelf.

That should settle it. There is only one manufacturer of brown and bubbly drinks in this country. They all come from me. I'm smooth with the carbonation. :naughty
Plus, we should all remember what happened a few years back with Coca Cola.
I think they tried to resell Fuzz's stuff without adding their good ingredients to the mix. The result was called "The New Coke" and almost put them out of business.
The point being, even when you start with the same ingredients, you don't always end up with the same product.
Water + flour = paste or water + flour and a few key ingredients = cake. (Or even better yet, cookies!)

Charles
 
Pepsi Clear...I remember the stuff, but don't think I liked it. Then again, I always was a Coke guy.
 
My father in law works for General Mills in Lodi, California. He told me that the ingredients to most of the generic cereals are the same as the name brand stuff. The difference is in the actual making of the products. Its all about proportions... Think of it this way: Imagine taking your favorite cheeseburger and then dropping it in a blender. After letting it blend up for awhile on setting "liquify" do you think its going to taste the same as before? Its because the flavor is all about proportions. Just the right amount of bread with meat with cheese etc etc etc. A product can have the same ingredients in it and yet be totally different. Odd thing that, eh?
 
Jngrbrdman said:
A product can have the same ingredients in it and yet be totally different. Odd thing that, eh?

That is certainly true but it is also true in all categories some are indeed one in the same or so minutely different it is insignifciant. I'm thinking of 70% isopropyl rubbing alcohol. Lots of stores sell it and it appears under many brands and sometimes the prices can be noticeably different but it's still the same commodity. Depends on where you like to shop and how much you mind paying.
 
Yeah, but how much difference can you really have between one brand of isopropyl alcohol and another? Its like hydrogen peroxide. I mean, how different can they really be. Or table salt. Is brand X any better than a name brand? Perhaps it is refined more, but really... how different can it be? When you are dealing with a long list of chemicals and ingredients that go into making something I think there is a much larger margin for uniqueness. When you get a long list of ingredients like that then there is more room for playing with proportions too. Perhaps more of this and less of that will turn the product from milk chocolate to dark chocolate. Totally different products made with similar ingredients. Same thing with cola. More or less of one product or another can make Coke taste like Crap.

While imatation is the highest form of flattery, I think it is safe to say that whenever any product gets any amount of popularity then you can expect that someone else will try and cash in on it by making something similar. They may get the MSDS sheet on it and be able to replicate the ingredients exactly, but when they are added will make a difference and even how they are added will affect it. I think P21S and S100 have told us this much. Nobody really knows how they are different. They just know that one is twice as much as the other and one can be bought locally. Other than that I don't think anyone has pointed out a specific benefit of one verses the other that can actually be seen or experienced through use.
 
Jngrbrdman said:
Yeah, but how much difference can you really have between one brand of isopropyl alcohol and another? Its like hydrogen peroxide. I mean, how different can they really be. Or table salt. Is brand X any better than a name brand? Perhaps it is refined more, but really... how different can it be?


Yeah, that was my point about the whole commodity factor.

Jngrbrdman said:
While imatation is the highest form of flattery, I think it is safe to say that whenever any product gets any amount of popularity then you can expect that someone else will try and cash in on it by making something similar. They may get the MSDS sheet on it and be able to replicate the ingredients exactly, but when they are added will make a difference and even how they are added will affect it.

All good points. He he, to bring up fragrances again, think about the perfume industry, there are the high dollar designer perfumes and there are the “knock off, compare to brand X copies”. Whether or not the “knock offs” come close to original scent is for the individual wearer to tell.

It seems to me this holds true for similar detailing products. The S100/P21s example is a good one. What’s your personal take on that ?
 
I honestly don't know on that. Up till a couple years ago they looked exactly the same. Then all of the sudden S100 started looking a little yellow. That is the only difference I can see. I have them both and I use them both. Someone could switch my S100 with P21S and I wouldn't even know the difference. I probably won't ever order a jar of P21S again, but that isn't to say its not a good product. S100 is just cheaper and does exactly what I want it to do. I have no idea why that company is doing what it does....
 
Ok ok ok... You guys got me. I'm tired of answering the emails, so I'll just post it here. Here is the famous Fuzzard Cola secret recipe. I even have a product picture around here somewhere.... Ah, here it is.

fuzz_juice.jpg
 
Jngrbrdman said:
Someone could switch my S100 with P21S and I wouldn't even know the difference. I probably won't ever order a jar of P21S again, but that isn't to say its not a good product. S100 is just cheaper and does exactly what I want it to do. I have no idea why that company is doing what it does....


:bigups :bigups I have a very hard time believing they're not the same or falling into that so minutely different the difference isn't even significant category. I can only speculate that perhaps the company became aware of the similariy the users noticed and tweaked it as you saw. This is just that though, speculation....
 
My guess is that they knew they were so close in looks that it would be easy to accidently ship S100 in a P21S can. Now that S100 is yellow they won't make that mistake. I still can't figure out why they would make two identical products with such wildly different price tags. Its not like the Dodge Neon and Plymouth Neon or something. At least those have similar price tags. :dunno
 
Yeah, I'm assuming the typical motorcycle or car owner who is interested in waxing his vehicle with a non mainstream, more "exclusive" product is willing to pay a price closer to one another than what the difference the current P21s and S100 is , or at least was ( thought I read of a price increase, and now S100 is closer in price to P21s ? :dunno) Maybe they had their pricing off track for a while there.
 
Hope you don't mind me jumping in...But I'm a Coke person. I can't handle the "sweetness" of Pepsi, and I like the carbonation in Coke. All in all, I guess I really can't argue about it being the same ingredients - just different proportions.

I have to draw the line at beer. They are definitely NOT the same, what do you all think? Different brands vs. types vs. cans vs. bottles vs. kegs......

By the way...Where do you get a can of that FuzzJuice????? :fuzz
 
Why is this even a thread for discussion. There is only one soda, pop, cola-beverage, cola.....Dr Pepper.

There is no period in Dr Pepper......PERIOD.
 
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