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Since I already paid for it, I use Zymol as a topper for Klasse (thanks Beau and all others on the board for showing the way).



I need my sunglasses to look at the Zymol topper on my klasse, Not because the shine is so much better I really don't want to see how silly I look for spending so much...
 
Interesting test, however the "Round 3" seems to be based too much on opinion. Some people like the bright look like Zaino, some people like the "no-difference" look of Meguiar's, and some like the "wax" look of the Zymol NSX.



However, every hood section had swirl marks!!!! Ahhhck!



~BW
 
Whoever thinks there are anything more than minute differences between Zymol's car-specific waxes is a very gullible person.



They make a specific wax for fire engines, for Christ's sake; and bicycles, and SUV's, and Saabs, and Volvo's...





Marketing at it's best (or most shameful).
 
and those really expensive estate glazes and stuff..Not knocking the wax, heard some nice things about them..and not so good things about them...lasts as long as it takes to apply. $1000 for the vintage...free refills for life..How much can one use in his/her lifetime?



enough venting...I do use Zymol's leather care kit. Cleans the leather well and the conditioner makes it soft and supple, without that slippery feeling, pretty inexpensive too, paid less than $15 shipped.
 
I find that the majority of the people on that particular forum just stick to Zymol and aren't very open to any other products. I once suggested Klasse and other products and everyone pretty much ignored the suggestion. Oh well, their loss.



They ought to learn a thing or two from this forum!



Huy
 
Zymol are masters of packaging and spin.



Does it matter that my wax has essence of humroot and ground monkey paw?



Does it matter that my wax comes in a crystal vase hand blown by Tibetan monks?



That's why I like One Grand; the most boring packaging ever, none of their products smell like hibiscus or honeysuckle, and a price and result that puts the others to shame.



That $1,000 wax was supposedly created for Ralph Lauren's Bugatti; as least we know Ralph has enough old shirts and towels around the house to detail!
 
Sorry kids but the Zymol Estate Glazes are aimed at a different audience($$$). No need to bash them just because you can't afford them.



I use Vintage glaze and I did not pay $1000. It costs me about $55(demo kit) and it's enough for 12 large cars. It lasts about 5 weeks and the gloss is awesome when combined with Klasse. IMO Blitz is durable but is no match in the LOOK's department for Zymol Vintage.
 
I'm sure the Zymol Vintage and other Estate waxes do leave a very nice shine. It's just that it's kind of hard to say that the Vintage wax is truly worth a $1,000. This is where a few reactions stem from. I just have a hard time believing that the Vintage wax is significantly or even noticeably different and or better than Pinnacle Souveran, Paste Glaze, etc... I would be completely satisfied with the pics of David B's yellow Porsche. Looks awesome. The color and depth is unbelievable. I believe he uses Pinnacle Souveran ($69) Now which one would I rather buy. One that is $1,000 or one that is $69 and will give me identical or near identical results. Obviously, I'd side with the Souveran.



I would love to do a little experiment on 10 different cars with the same make and model, color, production date, prep work, etc.... We could then select 10 of the forum's favorite waxes and use one on each car. I'd love to see if we could honestly notice a $930 or even a $980 better looking finish. I'm sure the results would be quite amusing.



Don't get me wrong, if I had a $1,000 to blow away I'd probably buy the Vintage. It's just that as a realistic individual, I'd have a hard time believing that I could achieve substantially or even noticeable improvement in the shine. Sometimes I think if the people who spend the money on these waxes are victims of the Cognitive Dissonance Theory. Just bare with me a little. This theory holds that people tend to alter their opinions, thoughts, impressions and even belief systems in order to help alleviate a stressful event or stimulus. Under this scenario, a person who spends $1,000 on SOME CAR WAX FOR GODSSAKE could convince himself to believe that they have in fact come upon the Holy Grail of all waxes. They could say to themselves, " Damn, that wax is absolutely awesome and the best that I have ever seen or tried. It's definitely worth the $1,000." This response would help the individual feel better about his purchase and thus himself. Or the individual could simply have terrible eyesight! Hehe!



Don't get me wrong. I'm not coming down on you. In fact, I would love to see some pics of this wax. Post them if you got em! Do you have any? Does anyone? Laters.



[Edited by Don2000g on 07-14-2001 at 10:07 PM]
 
Just becaus somthing is $$$ doesn't make it better then somthing that is like $15.00



If i buy a $219,500 Ferrari and i don't like it , i'am not going to tell someone that i bought a $219,500 and did not like it.
 
Ahhhh, perfect example of Cognitive Dissonance beginning to emerge. We don't want the ridicule that comes with this so we may then alter our perceptions a bit. Now, the Ferrari becomes in our mind "not bad, pretty good, etc..." Makes us feel better.
 
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<em class='bbc'>Originally posted by Don2000g [/i]
<strong class='bbc'>. . . the Cognitive Dissonance Theory . . . holds that people tend to alter their opinions, thoughts, impressions and even belief systems in order to help alleviate a stressful event or stimulus.[/b]</blockquote>I know what you mean, Don.

I found leaving my convertible out all night in the rain with the top down to be a stressful event or stimulus. So I simply altered my belief system such that I now realize that a little water inside your car once in a while is good for it, and the mildew smell is an acquired taste which adds character to a BMW.
 
to come here and find out about Klasse. It seemed to me in the review that the products for comparison were not very well balanced. A liquid polish, Mequiars and the NSX glaze?

It's too bad they didn't include AIO as a single product for testing or the AIO\SG combination to compare to the Zaino. Durability didn't seem to be much of a criteria although it looked like Zaino won in that area, was it just for the best shine?
 
For you non-users, it's just like he said....after weeks and weeks the water rejection properties and slickness are incredible.......



It is disturbing that the cheap zymol out performed the expensive stuff. I guess this test was subjective though.....not that scientific........
 
I'm not a big Zymol fan, didn't think it worked any better than any other wax. They sure know how to market that stuff though, to the high-end user who will pay anything. I learned a long time ago, the more money you spend the more you get the "diminishing returns". Zymol does have a decent initial shine, due to the various oils and silicone-like

ingredients, but that's it. Kinda evaporates quickly.
 
Zymol: Honestly, I don't ever see myself gravitating toward Zymol because it is an utter rip off. My parents used it on their Jaguar and it did not show me anything above and beyond Meguiar's.



Meguiar's: I have been using them for years with good to excellent results. Right now, I use the Deep Crystal Cleaner with the #9 Swirl Remover and then hit it with the #26 Hi-Tech Wax. The Maxima looks very nice when all is said and done.



Like others have said, they are hung up on Zymol and resistant to try others.
 
Eurosport, never did get a response from you. Do you have any pics of the Zymol Vintage on a car or cars? Curious to see how this $1,000 wax looks on a car. Laters.
 
Sorry Don2000g no camera here. I any event its hard to convey a 3D property using a 2D medium. You just have to see it by yourself to be amazed at the deep wet glossy finish, especially if you have metallic paint.
 
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