Car Cover Advice

wizardofahs

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I know a few people tried this... i'm remembering a super sweet green 'vette that Likecars(i believe) tried it on. anyone have some updates, does the klasse protection seal in the BF shine wash after wash? Is this the solution to make BF last past a wash or two? Or does applying the SG on top sort of kill BFs unique look? I really want to use BF on my black civic... but want it to last... anyone found a way other than 10+ coats?
 
I have had good success with SG on top, it does take away from the BF deep shine a bit. I can live with that because I do not like the clinging water from BF. With the SG on top my beading came back.
 
After five coats of BF my car has never shined like it is, even with five coats of SG. You will want to put multiple coats once you see how good it looks. BF goes on and comes off just as easy as any wax. I would say it is as easy as Blitz and gives the same deep shine or maybe deeper. Instead of the candy coated look you get with SG your vehicle will have a deep wet shimmering shine. My black car almost looks like liquid after five coats. Since BF has a fast cure time, you can apply multiple coats in the same day.
 
Thanks, both those posts had good info. I might have to try the SG on top.. i kind of like the candied look on cars with curves... having a deep wet and cadied look that beads and lasts might be ideal. Also Waxman, after 5 coats does BF sustain it's look? Or does it still start showing swirls and losing it's shine after a wash or two. I thought BF was like Klasse and you had to wait 24 hours or more. How long did you wait between your 5 coats? If i could take 3 days of and get my car from caked with salt and grime from the roads, to a deep wet shine that lasts, i would be very happy. :)
 
I like experimenting so go for it.



BF never lost it's shine on my vehicle, I just didn't like the way the water lays on it. There is no cure time with BF. The 24hrs for Klasse, I believe is a technique not a requirement. I only wait a few hours btwn if I'm doing mutiple coats.



LC
 
It hasn't lost it shine yet after about a three weeks since the last coat, and we have a lot of salt and snow around here. The most I have put on in one day is two coats. Just like Likecars said, since it sheets water, it sometimes forms one big puddle on the hood because the water molecules supposedly pull together, instead of beading. It just rolls off if you push it with a towel or drive away. On the sides of the car, the water just rolls off and does not leave spots when it dries.

As YoSteve explains in this thread:
http://autopia-carport.com/forum/showthread.php3?threadid=4615&highlight=wetting

"Because I work in the coating industry we deal with finishes that "wet out" that is if you place a drop of water it basically just lays there in an irregular very non-bubble shape.

Try this at home kids: take a drop of water and put it on a piece of plastic like a tupperware lid, so that it makes a bead. then dip a toothpick in liquid soap and touch the bead of water, then boom it wets out. That's the soaps ability to make water "wetter", or called wetting out. It's ugly on cars and it's what happens when the car is stripped of all its protectants (or a good test to tell if the car needs more wax).

So with the experiment we established that wetting out is not sheeting and is definately not beading.
Now sheeting action and beading are really more similar than we think. The mechanism is the same but the results are different. Both are due to the surface tension of the water. The only difference is the size of the water droplet. If it is small it beads and sits there, if the droplet stays big then all the water molecules pull all the other ones with themselves.

I really think sheeting and beading are the same. Spray a nozzle on my car you get water beading. Use the hoze without the nozzle and you get sheeting (and some beading). In either case the Klasse is clearly there. Now put some P21S on my car (as I did on my wheels that were Klassed) and you get complete wetting out squeaky clean yuck. That's what you don't want, and that's what you finish approaches as your wax starts to diminish, wetting out not sheeting. (hope that helps, just my theory)

Who know's maybe sheeting is step above beading, not only is the wax so hydrophobic that it makes it ball up in dropletts but it does so in a way that the droplets are maximized and so then the maximized bubble just falls off the car, which in theory is way better than non-maximized stable smaller droplets that just lead to little spots."
 
A friend of mine has just purchased an all black 2010 SRT8 Challenger. He asked me about car covers and i wasn't sure what to tell him so I thought I would ask the Pros! Anyone have advice? He won't be daily driving this car, more of a weekender type thing. Thanks!
 
My advise it don't cover it. Unless its perfectly clean the cover will scratch the paint by bufeting against the car. If you park inside a garage, a dust cover is OK but if you place it on a black car with any dust, it can still scratch.

Black is not a color, its a nightmare! (or as some have said a 2nd full time job!)
NOTHING LOOKS BETTER POLISHED AND SEALED THAN BLACK :)
 
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