Can I or a detailer get these out?

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mlounsbury

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Hello all,



I'm fairly new to the boards, been a lurker for a bit and have been wanting to get into detailing my own cars and I think this is going to be the summer that I finally get the ok from the boss.



At any rate, last weekend we bought a 2008 Honda Odyssey. The dealership said that the car came in with a lot of scratches and they had their people work on them and they were able to get a lot out. My wife and I were okay with the visual imperfections because we were getting a good deal, and with 3 kids in a Jeep we needed to do something sooner than later. This week while inspecting the van, it still has a lot of scratches on it and you can see swirl marks where it looks like they tried to remove the scratches. Looking at the scratches, I'm not really sure there's much I can do about them because it looks like many of them are down to the metal but I think the swirl marks can be taken care of by someone competent. I'm not really sure that's me, even if I have a PC7424 I'm not sure I know enough of what to do.



Here's some pics of the scratches and swirls. Any suggestions? Are we going to have to get it repainted to fix those?



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Wow... you've got one heck of a combination of issues going on there. Some of those scratches are going to probably be too deep to completely remove, others will probably come out easy. You can at least improve the appearance overall though (and yes, the buffer trails should be able to be removed).



If you do have spots that are down to bare metal, you'll want to touch those up ASAP to prevent a bunch of rust from forming.
 
Shiny Lil Detlr said:
Wow... you've got one heck of a combination of issues going on there. Some of those scratches are going to probably be too deep to completely remove, others will probably come out easy. You can at least improve the appearance overall though (and yes, the buffer trails should be able to be removed).



If you do have spots that are down to bare metal, you'll want to touch those up ASAP to prevent a bunch of rust from forming.
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+1 this can be made to look a lot better without too much effort.





John
 
Now is the perfect time to convince the boss that it is better to spend your money on equipment than taking it to a detailer to do the work...should be an easy sell. It would be a good vehicle to practice on too.
 
JPostal said:
Now is the perfect time to convince the boss that it is better to spend your money on equipment than taking it to a detailer to do the work...should be an easy sell. It would be a good vehicle to practice on too.
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I had actually found another thread on the boards from someone that just bought a Miata saying they wanted to polish and wax it to get rid of some small scratches and they were told it would be a 10 hour day without a PC7424. I read that to the boss and she was fairly receptive to me getting the PC7424. She actually said something about it the other day to me while we were driving without me even bringing it up.
 
Shiny Lil Detlr said:
Wow... you've got one heck of a combination of issues going on there. Some of those scratches are going to probably be too deep to completely remove, others will probably come out easy. You can at least improve the appearance overall though (and yes, the buffer trails should be able to be removed).



If you do have spots that are down to bare metal, you'll want to touch those up ASAP to prevent a bunch of rust from forming.
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I know I might be told to use the search here, but how do I tell which ones are actually down to the bare metal and which ones are not? And is there any real good way to touch them up so they don't stand out like a sore thumb?



As for the scratches that I can polish out, my plan before we bought this car was to get either Klasse AIO or Einszett 1Z as part of my wash/clay/polish/seal/wax routine. Would either of these work for what I've got going on here, or what is the process I'm going to need to take? Like I said, I'm sure someone competent can do this but I know you all are more competent than I am at this point. :bow
 
You'll need someone to do a great job. Generally, if you can feel it with your fingernail, it will stay but not always. Also it should cost some $$$$$
 
tdekany said:
You'll need someone to do a great job. Generally, if you can feel it with your fingernail, it will stay but not always. Also it should cost some $$$$$
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I would have to agree. Given a lack of experience, the best option would be to have someone professionally repair whatever can be repaired, giving a good maintainable base to work with.
 
mlounsbury said:
I know I might be told to use the search here, but how do I tell which ones are actually down to the bare metal and which ones are not? And is there any real good way to touch them up so they don't stand out like a sore thumb?



As for the scratches that I can polish out, my plan before we bought this car was to get either Klasse AIO or Einszett 1Z as part of my wash/clay/polish/seal/wax routine. Would either of these work for what I've got going on here, or what is the process I'm going to need to take? Like I said, I'm sure someone competent can do this but I know you all are more competent than I am at this point. :bow
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30X lighted magnifier, learn to use it, place directly on affected area, adjust focus and you'll see things you never saw before.
 
Anything that catches your fingernail won't come out completely but some of the scuffs and probably all the rotary swirls will come out.
 
Scottwax said:
Anything that catches your fingernail won't come out completely but some of the scuffs and probably all the rotary swirls will come out.
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Thanks. I'll have to look at it tonight and see how many of them are like that.
 
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